[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

She hit the people...stopped...got out of her car and looked at the victims on the ground....got back in her car and drove off. Then she went right to a body shop to get the car repaired. Told the repairman the blood on the car was from an animal she just hit. When the police finally caught up to her and ask questions...she fled the state, lawyered up and has fought this case for at least 2 years. This is not Mother Theresa.

She deserves the sentence she got. Miserable excuse for a human being.

[jjombrello]

Before you make a comment such as this, you should go back and read just how this accident occurred.

I am not a fan of the mass bicycling we see in TV as I have witnessed too many times the running of stop signs and unsafe side-by-side riding. Despite the pronouncements of the bicycle clubs of their safe operations, they should get out the driving manual and memorize it.

[Mrs.Guy]

IMHO some of these posts (possibly mine too) are:

vir·tue sig·nal·ing

noun - DEROGATORY

"The public expression of opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or social conscience or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
It's noticeable how often virtue signaling consists of saying you hate things". - Quote from online dictionary

I think the punishment fits the crime..... what I don't understand for the life of me is people being so nasty(IMHO) towards a 91 year old human being who is someone's mother and probably grandmother. "Miserable excuse for a human being" seems a bit much. I'm convinced the woman was guilty and sentenced correctly..... just not OVER JOYED about it. To me it's a bad time of the year to be hateful. PEACE and MERRY CHRISTmas.

[Daddymac]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

A travesty of justice.

Maybe if these bicyclists and their clubs(more like gangs) learned to ride responsibly these type accidents would never occur.

Right Here!! They are the people crying about “Cars” on the road. Yet they don’t abide by any traffic laws. They think they own the roads... Forget Stop 🛑 signs

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

What I found telling was that in all the news reports I have read about her conduct she was always reported as driving a Mercedes. It felt to me like an attempt to foster class hatred upon her although I personally found her conduct beyond reprehensible no matter what she was driving. She deserves to do the time as she definitely committed the crime. The OP wrote she was driving a car for which I am most appreciative.

The mention of the make of car also struck me as bizaar ! But that seems to be a standard "thing" with writers; not just in this local. We have many US Marines in our family; we've always noticed that when something really horrifying happens (a robbery, killing, fatal auto or boat accident, etc.) an article NEVER says, ex-navy member, or former army member or airman, but ALWAYS "ex-MARINE" ! ? It's something we've noticed for years no matter where we've lived or what newspaper we read. Once in another city we noticed that when a teen committed a an outrageous act, it never said "-------, son of a machinist, or son of a grounds keeper, or son of an auto mechanic, did ______." But it ALWAYS stated "son of a local pastor, or son on a local school principal, son of mayor ______, and so on. SOME jobs and professions seem to be held MORE responsible for the bad behavior of their children than others ? Seems so. Kind of the same line as the old "if it bleeds it leads" theory of "journalism" ? Nothing new, but yes, how many local articles mention a Ford, or Chevy ? LOL ! In that same subject area, had a similar "chit chat" discussion with our adult children over Thanksgiving. An article in their local paper triggered a discussion of SUV's (which we, and our children happen to drive). Son pointed out how if/when an automobile crashes through the front of a business (often driver error or illness), the news paper will always say SUV crashes through local grocery, injuring several shoppers. But, it never says "sedan" or "coupe" crashes through _______ . Isn't THAT strange our son offered ?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Mrs.Guy

IMHO some of these posts (possibly mine too) are:

vir·tue sig·nal·ing

noun - DEROGATORY

"The public expression of opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or social conscience or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
It's noticeable how often virtue signaling consists of saying you hate things". - Quote from online dictionary

I think the punishment fits the crime..... what I don't understand for the life of me is people being so nasty(IMHO) towards a 91 year old human being who is someone's mother and probably grandmother. "Miserable excuse for a human being" seems a bit much. I'm convinced the woman was guilty and sentenced correctly..... just not OVER JOYED about it. To me it's a bad time of the year to be hateful. PEACE and MERRY CHRISTmas.

Considering what she did and her actions afterward I stand by my comment. Hateful not at all. If she is someones mother hope the children turned out better than she did.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Considering what she did and her actions afterward I stand by my comment. Hateful not at all. If she is someones mother hope the children turned out better than she did.

I think in this case it wasn’t planned to leave the scene of the accident. The terror of what had happened most likely didn’t allow this ninety plus year old woman to think clearly.

A good friend in his early thirties was driving along a street one day years ago and a young man stepped from between two cars directly in front of his vehicle. The young man was killed instantly even though my friend tried to stop and then help him after the impact. My friend confided to me that he almost left the scene, he was so horrified and scared even though he couldn’t avoid the accident.

The suicide note from the deceased young man was found in his home after the accident and his death by vehicle was planned.

We all hope that we and our children and grandchildren would do the right thing if such an accident happened to them. We never know…

[WingedFoot78]

Please......Don't start another dog poop thread!

[birdawg]

Evil person

[nancyre]

If you are in an accident, you stay, you call 911, and you get help for those injured. You do not pull over get out see what you caused and then leave the victims to suffer. You do not have your vehicle quickly repaired to hide it.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Aces4

I think in this case it wasn’t planned to leave the scene of the accident. The terror of what had happened most likely didn’t allow this ninety plus year old woman to think clearly.

A good friend in his early thirties was driving along a street one day years ago and a young man stepped from between two cars directly in front of his vehicle. The young man was killed instantly even though my friend tried to stop and then help him after the impact. My friend confided to me that he almost left the scene, he was so horrified and scared even though he couldn’t avoid the accident.

The suicide note from the deceased young man was found in his home after the accident and his death by vehicle was planned.

We all hope that we and our children and grandchildren would do the right thing if such an accident happened to them. We never know…

Obviously she did not plan to have the accident but she did leave and than tried to have the damage fixed quickly as to remove the evidence. That part happened long after the initial accident. Cannot get past that.

[Bay Kid]

Such a shame for all involved. A total tragedy.

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

A travesty of justice.

Maybe if these bicyclists and their clubs(more like gangs) learned to ride responsibly these type accidents would never occur.

Generally speaking, while I have great sympathy for the victims, agree that this woman's behavior was reprehensible and recognize bicyclists right to the roadway, I think bicyclists need to be much more careful about how they assert these rights: Tandem riders blocking roadways at 15 MPH, or lagging members of a peloton entering a roundabout and forcing cars already in the circle to stop (examples of what I regularly observe), is a prescription for disaster. I rode bicycles and motorcycles without incident for 50+ years by always giving way to the largely insensitive car and truck drivers who could have taken me out at any time. Again, generally speaking, the roadway is NOT the place for a bicyclist to contest what are his/her legal rights. They will always lose, sometimes catastrophically.

[merrymini]

Originally Posted by JGibson

If she stayed at the scene they would’ve still had the same injuries.

They gave her 5 years not for the injuries but for leaving the scene.

If there is some evidence that she was drunk or driving recklessly I will change my mind.

I believe she deserves some punishment but at 91 and with no criminal history 5 years is a death sentence.

I really believe there was more behind the sentencing than just the crime.
I wonder if she was driving an old Toyota Corolla if she would’ve gotten this much time.

It's a travesty all around but I think people are suicidal riding bikes around the TV. Join a gym.

Biking is a great activity but you do put yourself at greater risk if hit by a car. A golf cart would not do so well either. Should we stop driving them too? This woman’s behavior is inexcusable. Glad to see her locked up.

[rrtjp]

Originally Posted by Mrs.Guy

IMHO some of these posts (possibly mine too) are:

vir·tue sig·nal·ing

noun - DEROGATORY

"The public expression of opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or social conscience or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
It's noticeable how often virtue signaling consists of saying you hate things". - Quote from online dictionary

I think the punishment fits the crime..... what I don't understand for the life of me is people being so nasty(IMHO) towards a 91 year old human being who is someone's mother and probably grandmother. "Miserable excuse for a human being" seems a bit much. I'm convinced the woman was guilty and sentenced correctly..... just not OVER JOYED about it. To me it's a bad time of the year to be hateful. PEACE and MERRY CHRISTmas.

“A bit much”
What do you call someone regardless of age that knowingly hurts someone, leaves the scene, doesn’t call for help and then tries to cover up what she did?
IMHO “a miserable excuse for a human being” is pretty accurate. This has nothing to do with what time of the year it is or hate.
The people she severely injured and their families are not going to be having a very merry CHRISTmas this year.