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Old 11-23-2016, 08:38 PM
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It's easy to say that we've all gone through the inconvenience of construction here, but these people have had to go through it multiple times.Once while their village was being built, once when the area directly across 466A was being built, and now bordering them, in an area that's not part of the Villages, by a developer who probably doesn't have the same concerns about community relations that TV's developer might have. While some people may be affected, the developer probably feels that it won't stop anybody else from going there, so why not. I was at my friend's home that backs to the construction site, when a enormous dozer with vibration equipment came by, and the whole house literally shook, and this went on all day. Since I go by every week to watch the place while he's gone, I see the dust all over the windows, siding, and in the air conditioner filter. And, while I know the saying "you should know that anything can be built on non Villages property", when they asked their salesperson what was going behind them, they were told he heard it was probably a retention pond. So, even if they should have researched it better, I still feel bad about what all the neighbors are enduring.
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Old 11-23-2016, 09:48 PM
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Before the really nasty comments start, let's be sure to point out the "developer" IS NOT The Villages for the Tradewinds project.
Thanks for clarifying that; there are residents that moved to The Villages because of what the developers built and they are a lot of the same people that are ready to jump on "The Village Developers" for anything.
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I live across the street from the construction in Pinellas and couldn't believe all the dust that came off my driveway with my blower.
Which you then blew onto your neighbors property!
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Thanks for clarifying that; there are residents that moved to The Villages because of what the developers built and they are a lot of the same people that are ready to jump on "The Village Developers" for anything.
And there are those that have a realistic view of The Villages and the developer, and realize that nothing, including the developer, is perfect.
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Old 11-24-2016, 03:54 PM
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The developer has a responsibility to maintain dust control. Contact FDEP. Florida department of environmental protection and tell them of your issue. The developer is required to obtain a permit called NPDES. This permit addresses your concerns and others as well.
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While I completely support the idea of watering this project (we have a big problem with the dust), you are talking about over 100 acres of land, and I am certain when this is presented to the Trailwinds developer and Wildwood and Sumter county, you will get the same response "that it is not practical to keep water on that amount of land". This would probably take 100 or more water trucks, 24/7/365. I wish you luck, you have my support, but I would not expect to come away from the meeting with a solution.
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I was driving west on 466A a few days ago, coming down the hill towards Buena Vista and could not believe the dust cloud that was off in the distance coming from this development, enveloping 466A and heading south towards Pinellas. While I realize there is some difficulty controlling dust, I can't imagine that the levels I saw that day are any where near acceptable.
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Rubicon - please refer to post 7 & 8. The posters refer to "the developers". This site is quite frequently used as a forum to decry the efforts of the developer of The Villages. I for one find that most offensive and wanted to point out that the developers of the Tradewind project are not associated with the villages. Let's make sure the blame for the dust goes to the correct party.
Mleeja:

its all good its the subject matter and not you personally. We just have a different point of view and when people are on different philosophical planes they simply cannot agree.

However I re-visited the posts and here is what I found.

kcrazorbackfor #1 the OP dust
RichyD #2--
mleeja #3 speaks to the issue of TV's developer
Village tinker #4--
btk #5--
Not golfer #6--
mulligan #7--
rivaradger #8--
justjim #9--
mleeja #10 again you reference TV developer
bobster #11--
rubicon #12 and my remarks about your bringing into the conversation TV Developer

I only thought about the Developer once and that was when I was in the process of buying a home here and once I closed I thought upon him no more.

However he continues showing up on TOTV ad nauseam and in glowing terms and I say to myself its a business that charges what the traffic will bear he's not giving away houses geezzz

the topic is Trailwinds Development dust

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Mleeja:

its all good its the subject matter and not you personally. We just have a different point of view and when people are on different philosophical planes they simply cannot agree.

However I re-visited the posts and here is what I found.

kcrazorbackfor #1 the OP dust
RichyD #2--
mleeja #3 speaks to the issue of TV's developer
Village tinker #4--
btk #5--
Not golfer #6--
mulligan #7--
rivaradger #8--
justjim #9--
mleeja #10 again you reference TV developer
bobster #11--
rubicon #12 and my remarks about your bringing into the conversation TV Developer

I only thought about the Developer once and that was when I was in the process of buying a home here and once I closed I thought upon him no more.

However he continues showing up on TOTV ad nauseam and in glowing terms and I say to myself its a business that charges what the traffic will bear he's not giving away houses geezzz

the topic is Trailwinds Development dust

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Unfortunately (and I admit I've been guilty of doing this) topics start getting sidelined usually during the 2nd or 3rd reply. If the thread keeps going, it'll probably get sidelined to a topic about grandparents being idiots with their grandchildren in golf carts.

Back to the dust, it is getting soooooooo dry; most ground with no vegetation on it is turning to powder.
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Old 11-25-2016, 05:13 PM
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We've been through this when the property south of Rt. 466 was being developed and it took years. It seemed that the aggravation went on forever. Needless to say, we were pleased when St. James was finally built out. Those in properties bordering Trailwinds have my sincere sympathy.
When we were looking at homes and property we saw some great properties which bordered undeveloped areas. These properties were immediately dropped from our list of possibilities. It was just too risky to buy something without a clue as to what would happen to that property.
If this property had been developed by The Villages the problems would be the same as they are now. This is what happens when extensive development takes place, especially in such sandy soil.
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Alden Bungalows are next to start whining...medical center going in...and the land directly behind the Bungalows...only a matter of time before that get's developed.

It may be time to think about getting a House Cover similar to a car cover ..put it on during the day take it off at night..just a thought. The For Sale signs were up and plans were in the loop for development in the near future..and it happened..So deal with as best you can, or sell.
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Has anyone noticed the land being developed on 466A and Powell Drive across from Walgreens. Several weeks ago , that developer put straw down. He had special equipment to spread it around. I presume that is for dust control. Tradewinds is a much larger development, but is much closer to many existing homes and in development of infrastructure longer.
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Has anyone noticed the land being developed on 466A and Powell Drive across from Walgreens. Several weeks ago , that developer put straw down. He had special equipment to spread it around. I presume that is for dust control. Tradewinds is a much larger development, but is much closer to many existing homes and in development of infrastructure longer.
With the roller ridges on top of the ground, it looks like it has been seeded with straw put on top of it. Won't get a very good stand if no rain comes soon.
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The developer has a responsibility to maintain dust control. Contact FDEP. Florida department of environmental protection and tell them of your issue. The developer is required to obtain a permit called NPDES. This permit addresses your concerns and others as well.
Ditto! The developer is REQUIRED to control dust, (most water). They don't have to water the whole project as one poster here questioned. But they do need to do construction roads etc. which would greatly help. For those that are calling people whiners, you should drive down 466a on a windy day. You cant see through the dust at times. The Villages controlled the dust as much as practical.
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This is just terrible. I worked in a stone quarry for several years and there were three men who drove around in water trucks between 40 and 50 hours a week keeping the roads moist. Was it like a perfect, not at all. I have no skin in this game other than a little knowledge of the construction business. They are going to do the absolute least they can and spend as little as possible, I understand that it's a business but what I saw the other day down there was straight up abusive to the area residents. PERIOD. They are residents not construction workers and should expect some dust but not that kind of volume. Lawyer up!
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