[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Saw a semi the other day that needed both lanes and part of the center to get to exit 3 for a pick up or delivery. Giving way or yielding is not a sign of weakness. Sometimes it shows intelligence, comprehension and compassion.

If someone is daft enough to pull alongside a semi maneuvering at any junction, they deserve what they get.
Big, wins.

[donfey]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

On all the hundreds of RB threads over the years on TOTV, many blamed so-called "snowbirds" for most of the bonehead driving there. A popular rebuttal is "We're from Massachusetts, we know how to drive roundabouts". Having just returned from Mass., I can assure you, YOU DO NOT!!!! No different there than here, maybe even worse.

There are three types of drivers here: Full time Villagers, Snowbirds, visitors/guests. None of these groups can claim to be all "good drivers." That our well-marked roundabouts continue to baffle (supposedly) experienced drivers continues to amaze me.

[Danube]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

That is incorrect. Other then they're both usually "circular and control traffic", they are different animals.

See attached.

I was a transportation planner for decades. State transportation dept, local agencies, consulting. I'm familiar with these traffic control systems.

Roundabout, traffic circle, rotary are just different names. Different places & people call these things different names.

Even Wikipedia says: "In U.S. dictionaries the terms roundabout, traffic circle, road circle and rotary are synonyms."
Roundabout - Wikipedia

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

As has been explained numerous times, there is no ambiguity. If the signs are followed, if the rules are followed, if (apparently not-so) common sense is followed then there is no problem.

The right/outer lane enters the RB and either turns right or goes straight, just as it would at the signalized intersection at Morse and 44.

The left/inner lane enters the RB and either goes straight or turns right, just as it would at the signalized intersection at Morse and 44.

If there is a car already in the RB and approaching where you are about to enter then you yield, just as you would at the signalized intersection at Morse and 44.

If the right/outer lane continues to go around then it is making a left hand turn which is improper and dangerous, just as it would be at the signalized intersection at Morse and 44.

If the left/inner lane exits at the first exit then it is making a right hand turn which is improper and dangerous, just as it would be at the signalized intersection at Morse and 44.

It really is that simple.

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[djlnc]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

The left/inner lane enters the RB and either goes straight or turns right, just as it would at the signalized intersection at Morse and 44.

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You didn't mean that, did you?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by djlnc

You didn't mean that, did you?

No, not all. I’ll correct it now. Thank you for pointing it out.

[Hape2Bhr]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

If someone is daft enough to pull alongside a semi maneuvering at any junction, they deserve what they get.
Big, wins.

Exactly what Dan Newlin counts on.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by d1nod1no

This conflict would be greatly reduced if there were fewer people. IMHO the roundabouts are way too crowded!

The world is "way too crowded". But that is a topic for another thread. We have to deal with what and who is here now.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

The world is "way too crowded". But that is a topic for another thread. We have to deal with what and who is here now.

It's okay. The deluded believe climate change will solve the overpopulation issue for us.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr

Exactly what Dan Newlin counts on.

Post of the day!

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Danube

I was a transportation planner for decades. State transportation dept, local agencies, consulting. I'm familiar with these traffic control systems.

Roundabout, traffic circle, rotary are just different names. Different places & people call these things different names.

Even Wikipedia says: "In U.S. dictionaries the terms roundabout, traffic circle, road circle and rotary are synonyms."
Roundabout - Wikipedia

I'm sure you and Wikipedia is correct and the Federal Highway Administration is wrong and the Federal Highway Safety Manual, is baloney.

mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part3/part3c.htm

Chapter 1A - MUTCD 2009 Edition - FHWA - Transportation

HRT-06-047_Roundabouts - Federal Highway Administration

safety.fhwa.dot.gov/tools/data_tools/mirereport/126.cfm

mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part1/part1a.htm

mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part3/part3c.htm

https://highways.dot.gov/safety/lear...ed-and-crashes

[Bearlythere]

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Originally Posted by BrianL99

I edited it, to make it clearer.

MA was first in a lot of things, but not building roundabouts.

In that department, they were probably behind everyone, other than maybe VT & ME.

[Bearlythere]

Google Angola , Indiana Traffic circle built soon after civil war

[Sandabern]

Half the problem is people literally don’t know how to “stay in their lane” while in the RB…

[CybrSage]

Did you look up the American Autoduelist Association? I recommend looking it up. Add Steve Jackson to the search.