[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Lou. I know you are a kind and good person, but not everyone agrees with this controversial subject. You may believe with every fiber of your being that it is the right thing to do, but not everyone thinks this is the best answer.


Your feelings will be hurt.


And you will get angry at people who can't help believing the way they believe.


We are a bunch of stubborn old-er people who at our age aren't likely to change our minds. AND we all believe that we know what is right.


This subject is very inflammatory. I can't believe this thread is left to stand.

No, I will not be hurt, the maximum hurt has been done to me already. Everything in my future will be positive. I will not get angry any more, I know it's not their fault, it's their misunderstanding. I will forgive them of their misunderstandings. I have said many times on this site that my Hero is Jesus Christ; therefore I will follow his teachings by both turning the other cheek and giving to the needy.

Love
Lou

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Thank you America for the Affordable Care Act.

I can visualize the mother being able to take her child to her doctor on a scheduled appointment. This WILL speed up the time spent in emergency rooms for true emergencies.

This humanitarian act took less than 6 months. We humans are slowly becoming more Humane.

Great Britain avg wait is 197 days for doctors appt, similar to Canada. Do this call your doctor here in the villages about your health concern and guess where they'll tell you to go because the schedule is booked: the emergency room.

[rockyisle]

And they said the same about Medicare years ago and the same for Plan D... I'm happy we finally have "something" on the books to help those who need health care. I hope in the coming years our nation will expand and streamline our healthcare programs so that everyone (not just us oldsters) have reasonable and affordable coverage.

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by rockyisle

And they said the same about Medicare years ago and the same for Plan D... I'm happy we finally have "something" on the books to help those who need health care. I hope in the coming years our nation will expand and streamline our healthcare programs so that everyone (not just us oldsters) have reasonable and affordable coverage.

We already have something on the books. Health clinics, Medicaid are all available now. Obamacare in the form of tax credits is redistribution from one individual to others.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Irishmen

Great Britain avg wait is 197 days for doctors appt, similar to Canada. Do this call your doctor here in the villages about your health concern and guess where they'll tell you to go because the schedule is booked: the emergency room.

Very long waits in Austria where income tax is fifty percent.


Friend in Netherlands was diagnosed with breast cancer and had to wait three months for surgery. Meanwhile the little cancer cells are growing, growing, growing and traveling, traveling, traveling.


Socialized medicine is not what we are used to. But I guess we will have to get used to it.


My husband worked long hours and stayed with a company through very difficult bosses so that we could have the excellent health benefits that Helene's life depended on. Everyone makes sacrifices to protect their loved ones. At least everyone used to. Now fathers don't even marry mothers and there are multiple parents who do not look out for the lives of many children brought into the world.


It is no shame to be poor, and many cannot help themselves out of it. But some can. Many of our immigrant parents and grandparents did. Those of us who can afford to care for those who cannot care for themselves have an ethical responsibility to share their wealth. However the welfare system is so abused that it is a mockery and an enabling agent for many who use illegal drugs to live comfortably and pay for their habit with welfare funds.


Now perhaps this thread will be closed.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by DianeM

This could get ugly real fast. You're either pro this plan or not. I personally do not support it. It's wrong to mandate what people do for health care. I chose to ignore the nonsense.

[Madelaine Amee]

This is a "no win" thread. You are either for it or against it - nothing in between and it is becoming political real fast!

[Golfingnut]

Well, the 6 million that have it now is a giant leap for mankind for what the MAJORITY fasted for and won in 2010. The only thing left is whether it works or not. I am putting my belief on it working. Let's not fight, about it, let's all join in the hope that it does work.

[CraigC]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Most of the posters criticizing this law, probably prefer the single-payer socialized medicine, commonly known as Medicare. The majority does support the ACA in case anyone missed the big poll taken in 2012.

I'm not sure if this post is made in jest. Quoting a 2012 poll on ACA just goes to show how illiterate the average American really is. They don't read and most don't even listen to news on television. As usual, they don't know much of anything about anything until it hurts them personally. As the current polling shows, it now is beginning to hurt. March 6, 2014 Gallup polling shows the number of Americans disapproving to be 55% and 40% approving. In a way watching this disaster unfold has been quite comical. Listening to the excuses reminds me of the days of Baghdad Bob.

Number of Americans Saying ACA Has Hurt Them Inches Up

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Well, the 6 million that have it now is a giant leap for mankind for what the MAJORITY fasted for and won in 2010. The only thing left is whether it works or not. I am putting my belief on it working. Let's not fight, about it, let's all join in the hope that it does work.

Sorry but I hope it will be a total failure that needs to be rescinded

[Irishmen]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

This is a "no win" thread. You are either for it or against it - nothing in between and it is becoming political real fast!

This too is a myth. I like portions of the act. Polls indicate others feel like me. I don't like the act for the real reason it was created, too hold group of people hostage and as avenue for wealth redistribution through tax credits.
Let's keep preexisting conditions portion but open the market to be able to cross state lines.
And political it is. California applicants receive by law voter registration. Funny how the box is premarked Democrat.

[quirky3]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Thank you America for the Affordable Care Act.

I can visualize the mother being able to take her child to her doctor on a scheduled appointment. This WILL speed up the time spent in emergency rooms for true emergencies.

This humanitarian act took less than 6 months. We humans are slowly becoming more Humane.

Completely agree!

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Irishmen

This too is a myth. I like portions of the act. Polls indicate others feel like me. I don't like the act for the real reason it was created, too hold group of people hostage and as avenue for wealth redistribution through tax credits.
Let's keep preexisting conditions portion but open the market to be able to cross state lines.

Bingo!

[nitehawk]

Get use to it Obama Care is here to stay ---- Thank you

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by CraigC

I'm not sure if this post is made in jest. Quoting a 2012 poll on ACA just goes to show how illiterate the average American really is. They don't read and most don't even listen to news on television. As usual, they don't know much of anything about anything until it hurts them personally. As the current polling shows, it now is beginning to hurt. March 6, 2014 Gallup polling shows the number of Americans disapproving to be 55% and 40% approving. In a way watching this disaster unfold has been quite comical. Listening to the excuses reminds me of the days of Baghdad Bob.

Number of Americans Saying ACA Has Hurt Them Inches Up

50% of Americans pay zero income taxes......I would bet 100% of the 40% are in that boat.......okay, a couple % of the 40% might.