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Old 02-05-2015, 01:28 PM
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Given the amount of guns out there, it's a good idea for all children to take the gun safety course. That way, should they come into contact with one, they won't be so curious and will know how to be more responsible.
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:40 PM
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lets remember that all guns are banned in Great Britain and even policemen do not carry. Permits for hunting are hard to obtain. So the notion put forth that only bad guys or gals with have them when guns are banned is not proven. but I am resigned to know that this not-so-great country will never ban guns
I don't know why you believe we aren't so great a country, and I really don't care to know the reason. Perhaps you are from another country originally. The United States is not just a great country, it is an exceptional country. The second amendment, in my opinion, is one of those things that has been a factor in differentiating our country from run of the mill dictatorships, kingdoms, and failed social experiments.

Perhaps you've forgotten that every household in Switzerland has a weapon provided by the government. Your bobbies are becoming more armed every day, even including automatic weapons, to deal with the mess they now have on their hands.

If you are really ashamed of this country I don't know what to say. We are a free country, though, and you have choices.
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:56 PM
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[QUOTE=dbussone;1007090]

Perhaps you've forgotten that every household in Switzerland has a weapon provided by the government. /QUOTE]

Not really true. Swiss men are issued a weapon when they enter military service and the rifle is kept at their house. After completion in the military, they have the option of keeping or turning in the rifle.

Approximately 45 percent of Swiss homes have weapons. It is quite difficult to get a carry permit there.

Google it for the full story.
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If all Swiss men are conscripted into the army, then every household has, or has had a weapon. Even at a retention rate of 45% they represent a formidable force. I don't believe everything I see or read on the Internet, even if Google says it. thank you for the correction.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:10 PM
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How many of the Swiss have an army knife?
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After I read an article in today's Daily Sun about an 18 year old boy accidently shooting a friend with an AK-47 (pointed the gun at the friend and pulled the trigger), I Googled to see if owning an AK-47 was legal in Florida.

It is legal to own a semi-automatic AK-47 if you are at least 18 years old.

Amazing, but llegal.
It may be legal and that's ok with me. That being said, I don't care what gun it is: AK-47 or derringer, NEVER point it at anyone....period. That is the first rule that everyone should know even if they do not own a gun themselves or may be just looking at one while it is in their hands.

We both had concealed carry permits through Texas when we traveled a lot, and my dad taught me about guns when I was a kid. He was not a hunter, but did have a couple of guns.
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After seeing the following statistic my guess is that 60% of the households in the villages have a gun. And now I'd like to take this opportunity to apologise to anyone I may have ever offended.

This is from wikipedia.
List of countries by number of guns per capita[edit]

Country Guns per 100



Rank
(2014) Notes

country guns per hundred rank
United States 90.0 1
Serbia 58.2 2
Yemen 54.8 3
Switzerland 45.7 4
Cyprus 36.1 5
Saudi Arabia 35 6
Iraq 34.2 7
Uruguay 31.8 8
Sweden 31.6 9
Norway 31.3 10
France 31.2 11
Canada 30.8 12
Austria 30.4 13
Germany 30.3 14
Iceland 30.3 15
Finland 29.1 16 34.2[6][7]
Oman 25.5 17
Bahrain 24.8 18
Kuwait 24.8 18
Republic of Macedonia 24.1 20
Montenegro 23.1 21
New Zealand 22.6 22 Small firearms not permitted to general public. 26.8[2]
Greece 22.5 23
United Arab Emirates 22.1 24
Northern Ireland 21.9 25
Croatia 21.7 26
Panama 21.7 26
Lebanon 21 28
Equatorial Guinea 19.9 29
Qatar 19.2 31
Latvia 19 32
Peru 18.8 33
Angola 17.3 34
Bosnia and Herzegovina 17.3 34
Belgium 17.2 36
Paraguay 17 37
Czech Republic 16.3 38
Thailand 15.6 39
Libya 15.5 40
Luxembourg 15.3 41
Australia 15 42
Mexico 15 42
Mauritius 14.7 44
Guyana 14.6 45
Gabon 14 46
Slovenia 13.5 47
Suriname 13.4 48
Guatemala 13.1 49
South Africa 12.7 50
Namibia 12.6 51
Armenia 12.5 52
Turkey 12.5 52
Denmark 12 54
Italy 11.9 55
Malta 11.9 55
Pakistan 11.6 57
Jordan 11.5 58
Chile 10.7 59
Venezuela 10.7 59
Spain 10.4 61
Argentina 10.2 62
Belize 10 63
Costa Rica 9.9 64
Estonia 9.2 65
Somalia 9.1 66
Transnistria 9.1 66
Russia 8.9 68
Zambia 8.9 68
Albania 8.6 70
Ireland 8.6 70
Portugal 8.5 72
Slovakia 8.3 73
Jamaica 8.1 74
Brazil 8 75
Barbados 7.8 76
Nicaragua 7.7 77
Algeria 7.6 78
Belarus 7.3 79
Georgia 7.3 79
Iran 7.3 79
Israel 7.3 79
Moldova 7.1 83
Ukraine 6.6 84
Maldives 6.5 85
Kenya 6.4 86
Swaziland 6.4 86
Bulgaria 6.2 88
EnglandWales England and Wales 6.2 88
Honduras 6.2 88
Colombia 5.9 91
El Salvador 5.8 92
Hungary 5.5 93
Scotland 5.5 93
Sudan 5.5 93 Includes South Sudan
Cape Verde 5.4 96
Seychelles 5.4 96
Bahamas 5.3 98
Dominican Republic 5.1 99
Mozambique 5.1 99
Morocco 5 101
Botswana 4.9 102
China 4.9 102
Cuba 4.8 104
Philippines 4.7 105
Afghanistan 4.6 106
Taiwan 4.6 106
Zimbabwe 4.6 106
Cambodia 4.3 109
India 4.2 110
Burma 4 111
Netherlands 3.9 112
Syria 3.9 112
Turkmenistan 3.8 114
Azerbaijan 3.5 115
Egypt 3.5 115
Bhutan 3.5 115
Palestine 3.4 118
Bolivia 2.8 119
Cameroon 2.8 119
Djibouti 2.8 119
Congo 2.7 122
Lesotho 2.7 122
Ivory Coast 2.4 124
Senegal 2 125
Mongolia 1.9 126
Comoros 1.8 127
Vietnam 1.7 128
Guinea-Bissau 1.6 129
Liberia 1.6 129
Mauritania 1.6 129
Trinidad and Tobago 1.6 129
Malaysia 1.5 133
Nigeria 1.5 133
Sri Lanka 1.5 133
Uzbekistan 1.5 133
Benin 1.4 137
Brunei 1.4 137
Democratic Republic of the Congo 1.4 137
Tanzania 1.4 137
Uganda 1.4 137
Ecuador 1.3 142
Kazakhstan 1.3 142
Poland 1.3 142
Burundi 1.2 145
Laos 1.2 145
Guinea 1.2 145
Papua New Guinea 1.2 145
Burkina Faso 1.1 149
Chad 1.1 149
South Korea 1.1 149
Mali 1.1 149
Central African Republic 1 153
Tajikistan 1 153
Togo 1 153
Kyrgyzstan .9 156
Gambia .8 157
Madagascar .8 157
Nepal .8 157
Lithuania .7 160
Malawi .7 160
***** .7 160
Romania .7 160
Haiti .6 164
Japan .6 164
North Korea .6 164
Rwanda .6 164
Sierra Leone .6 164
Bangladesh .5 169
Eritrea .5 169
Fiji .5 169
Indonesia .5 169
Singapore .5 169
Ethiopia .4 174
Ghana .4 174
Solomon Islands .4 174
Timor-Leste .3 177
Tunisia .1 178
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lets remember that all guns are banned in Great Britain and even policemen do not carry. Permits for hunting are hard to obtain. So the notion put forth that only bad guys or gals with have them when guns are banned is not proven. but I am resigned to know that this not-so-great country will never ban guns
Hey Cathy H.....how about enlightening us why you make such a statement.....you certainly must know that you were waving a red flag in the face of the rest of us who think you are absolutely wrong!
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Tomwed - you are forgiven. Just don't do it again.
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How many of the Swiss have an army knife?
Good one!
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I thought that Sandtrap once again brought up the issue of guns. That is what I thought and that we were discussing guns.

I will say again, that never in my life until I moved here did I know anyone who had guns who didn't hunt. I was very troubled about this for awhile and then decided when we had that rash of break-ins a while back that I was glad my neighbors were armed and that they made it clear they were armed. Maybe the bad guys won't prey on this Senior community.
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I thought that Sandtrap once again brought up the issue of guns. That is what I thought and that we were discussing guns.

I will say again, that never in my life until I moved here did I know anyone who had guns who didn't hunt. I was very troubled about this for awhile and then decided when we had that rash of break-ins a while back that I was glad my neighbors were armed and that they made it clear they were armed. Maybe the bad guys won't prey on this Senior community.
Absolutely right, as usual, Gracie.
However, an AK-47 is a very unwieldy weapon for home defense. Most would pick a pistol instead of a bulky weapon such like the AK-47. The AK would be more likely to be taken away by an intruder and turned on the owner than a pistol, too. (how many Wyatt Earps are going to say they would shoot first and ask questions later?)

Do not forget that if your home was robbed and the robber was running down your driveway, and you shoot him/her (equal opportunity!), you are going to be the liable person as you were not in immediate danger at that point. That will be something taught in your gun safety class.
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:11 PM
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A civilian version of an AK 47 is no more dangerous than any other rifle of similar caliber, same hold true for AR 15s. So first and foremost all firearms need to be secured, I own several guns and none of them have ever jumped out of my gun safe and fired a shot at anyone or any thing.
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:35 PM
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Oh boy, here we go.

A can of wasp spray or the remote for your car with a panic button are better to keep by your bed than a gun. A billy club in a good idea for after the wasp spray. I said this before and I'll say it again. You are most vulnerable in your bedroom so fortify your bedroom door.

Do we really need to worry here, no but it doesn't hurt to be prepared.
I pity you and your family if your only defense is a can of wasp spray, a car remote and billy club. Even Mace is shown to be ineffective against many, especially on drugs where they eyes water and disperse the spray. A car remote triggering an alarm? This is so common to hear that no one pays attention to and is worthless. By the time the police are called and arrive they can only write a report describing the crime scene. We can't rely on others to protect our home and family for us and must take it upon ourselves to learn and train how to do that. It's not hard, just got to realize that help isn't going to come in the nick of time like in the movies.
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Quite often they are their own worst enemies, and remove themselves from the gene pool. Darwin strikes again.
Yes, but the problem is when they remove some innocent bystander from the pool along with themselves.
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