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[billethkid]

I remain a believer that if some would spend a few days in the shoes of our law enforcement one would become educated in why they sometimes do what they do. And PLEASE do not tar the outstanding work that more than 95% of law enforcement does it right.

If one has not been there then most commentary is nothing more than an opinion. Which we are all entitled to have....right and or wrong.

Unfortunately far too many believe what the media and special interest groups and politicians are peddaling to benefit their agenda......not yours or that of law enforcement.

Some do not like the police because they get nailed for a moving violation. What that objects to is enforcement.....ENFORCEMENT......you remember.....like we used to have in past generations.... before the watering down and the fear of offending someone. Our police forces are referred to as LEO.....law ENFORCEMENT officers!!!

I still want to know where the rocket launchers and tanks are being utilized?

[Bogie Shooter]

A partial list of the kinds of equipment being donated to police departments around the country. A Google search will provide many more diverse lists.
List of Military Equipment Used by Local Police from the 1033 Program - FPRN Radio

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

A partial list of the kinds of equipment being donated to police departments around the country. A Google search will provide many more diverse lists.
List of Military Equipment Used by Local Police from the 1033 Program - FPRN Radio

a good start and use of eqipment to help fight crime and terrorism.

Now we need a list of the weaponary used by criminals and terrorists.

[kittygilchrist]

We have become a culture of violence. We are in a period of transition where that will show up on the streets and neighborhoods and everywhere else. If that sounds pessimistic, go try to rent a movie without violence. Compare how many you can rent with violence to the ones without.

[old moe]

QUOTE=Bogie Shooter;923688]A partial list of the kinds of equipment being donated to police departments around the country. A Google search will provide many more diverse lists.
List of Military Equipment Used by Local Police from the 1033 Program - FPRN Radio[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't it be nice if the Ferguson, Mo. police dept. had some of this equipment now??

[janmcn]

Police departments across the country should be more reflective of the complexion of their community. Ferguson, population just over 20,000 and 70% black, has a police force of 50 white officers. That would be comparable to The Villages, at 100,000 population and mostly white, having a police force of 250 black officers.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by old moe

QUOTE=Bogie Shooter;923688]A partial list of the kinds of equipment being donated to police departments around the country. A Google search will provide many more diverse lists.
List of Military Equipment Used by Local Police from the 1033 Program - FPRN Radio

Wouldn't it be nice if the Ferguson, Mo. police dept. had some of this equipment now?? [/Q

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Police departments across the country should be more reflective of the complexion of their community. Ferguson, population just over 20,000 and 70% black, has a police force of 50 white officers. That would be comparable to The Villages, at 100,000 population and mostly white, having a police force of 250 black officers.

Police departments across the country hire from a pool of applicants for the job. If a person does not apply for the job, that tells me they are not interested in the job. A disinterested worker who's not motivated enough to even apply is not a viable candidate for a job!

As for TV hypothetically having 250 black officers for all of us, so WHAT???? If people bother to apply, go to school and graduate and get licensed by passing the exams, we don't care what color they are. That hypothetical scenario seems to assume that a majority of black officers here would mistreat us because of our color, which would be "prejudice".

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Police departments across the country should be more reflective of the complexion of their community. Ferguson, population just over 20,000 and 70% black, has a police force of 50 white officers. That would be comparable to The Villages, at 100,000 population and mostly white, having a police force of 250 black officers.

Ferguson probably still holds to a standard we all miss.....what standard would that be?

If you are not qualified and or you cannot pass the test YOU DO NOT GET THE JOB!!! No racism or politics or religion at all.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Police departments across the country should be more reflective of the complexion of their community. Ferguson, population just over 20,000 and 70% black, has a police force of 50 white officers. That would be comparable to The Villages, at 100,000 population and mostly white, having a police force of 250 black officers.

Not sure I understand the logic being applied here.

Without knowing the application rates among races, along with any affirmative action rules applied, etc. It has been shown in many cases, not saying this one, that affirmative action tends to lower the standards for the positions.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I still want to know where the rocket launchers and tanks are being utilized?

I have corrected my OP. I meant to say grenade launchers.
(A Google search will identify those departments with the launchers.)

Here is the tank.

In Montgomery County, Texas, the sheriff�s department owns a $300,000 pilotless surveillance drone, like those used to hunt down al Qaeda terrorists in the remote tribal regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan. In Augusta, Maine, with fewer than 20,000 people and where an officer hasn�t died from gunfire in the line of duty in more than 125 years, police bought eight $1,500 tactical vests. Police in Des Moines, Iowa, bought two $180,000 bomb-disarming robots, while an Arizona sheriff is now the proud owner of a surplus Army tank. - Source, Local Cops Ready for War With Homeland Security-Funded Military Weapons - The Daily Beast

I think the bottom line is that a whole lot of military grade equipment and firepower is now in the hands of local police departments. Good or bad is up to you.

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

I have corrected my OP. I meant to say grenade launchers.
(A Google search will identify those departments with the launchers.)

Here is the tank.

In Montgomery County, Texas, the sheriff�s department owns a $300,000 pilotless surveillance drone, like those used to hunt down al Qaeda terrorists in the remote tribal regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan. In Augusta, Maine, with fewer than 20,000 people and where an officer hasn�t died from gunfire in the line of duty in more than 125 years, police bought eight $1,500 tactical vests. Police in Des Moines, Iowa, bought two $180,000 bomb-disarming robots, while an Arizona sheriff is now the proud owner of a surplus Army tank. - Source, Local Cops Ready for War With Homeland Security-Funded Military Weapons - The Daily Beast

I think the bottom line is that a whole lot of military grade equipment and firepower is now in the hands of local police departments. Good or bad is up to you.

Not to justify a supposed "need" by local police departments, but ISIS has seized and is using our military grade equipment left for the Iraqi military, now collapsed.

ISIS has promised to show up here in the U.S. and specifically in the White House, to place their caliphate here.

The 2nd Amendment provides for a "well regulated militia". Maybe Homeland Security is preparing localities for events we don't know about.

"A large quantity of the weapons that ISIS seized from Mosul were supplied by the U.S. to the Iraqi Army. ISIS also fields weapons produced in Russia, China, the Balkans, and Iran."

Read more: ISIS Military Equipment Breakdown - Business Insider

[getdul981]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Are tanks and shoulder fired missiles too much?

Not if that's what it takes to maintain law and order.

[buggyone]

There have been postings on past threads regarding the types of weapons that citizens should or should not be allowed to own.

One of the responses was that citizens should be able to own whatever weapon that the military has so the military cannot over run citizens. To me, that is ridiculous. Would you ver envision citizens being allowed to own grenade launchers, shoulder fired missiles, or cluster bombs?

Police do need armored personnel carriers at times and high powered rifles, automatic weapons, etc in some circumstances.

Basically, in Ferguson, the police have done a Keystone Kops routine. The right hand does not know what the left is doing at the same time.