[Villages PL]

By now, everyone has heard the following argument: "You can't believe the so-called food experts because they keep changing their minds about what's good and what's bad for your health." This is an argument that is promoted by the processed food industry to turn people against food science. They have a high percentage of the population hooked on processed foods and they don't want science undoing all their hard work. So this is their way of trying to discredit nutrition science.

A popular radio personality, with a stake in food sales, frequently invokes this argument. He once asked in feigned frustration, "Who knows what's healthy?"

I say the above argument is completely phony, and here's why. There's no area of science that I know of that doesn't have disagreements, and yet, he only raises this issue with food science.

Economics: Look at all the many disagreements between experts. Is he confused by it? No. He firmly believes in free-market economics.

Climatology: Experts disagree all the time. Is he confused? No, he clearly comes down on one side of the global warming argument.

Environmental disagreements among experts are many. Is he confused? No.

Evolution: There have been disagreements among evolutionists. And there are ongoing disagreements between evolutionists and creationists. Is he confused by any of this? No.

Conclusion: No matter how difficult or complicated the science may be, in any field from economics to climatology, he has no problem making up his mind between all the conflicting statements made by experts. He only has a problem with food science because he has a stake in food sales. He can't say that processed foods are healthy, so he seeks to do the next best thing. He does his best to discredit nutrition science.

Note: This popular radio personality really exists; I purposely left out his name. The point I'm making is how the system works to shape public opinion.

[graciegirl]

If you have a good program that works, than you really don't have to sell it. People will know that your diet and your exercise plan is doin' you good and you will get to sit in your chair and be happy that you outlived all of the people that disagreed with you.

I doubt very much if that radio personality or most of us reading this are going to switch to an all natural plant based diet. It is way too extreme for most people to follow.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

If you have a good program that works, than you really don't have to sell it. People will know that your diet and your exercise plan is doin' you good and you will get to sit in your chair and be happy that you outlived all of the people that disagreed with you.

I doubt very much if that radio personality or most of us reading this are going to switch to an all natural plant based diet. It is way too extreme for most people to follow.

Sometimes I think you must think about a big wedge of peach cobbler with a dollop of vanilla ice cream. Some say that is better than sex. I don't, but some do.

You missed the point.

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

By now, everyone has heard the following argument: "You can't believe the so-called food "experts" because they keep changing their minds about what's 'good' and what's 'bad' for your health." This is an argument that is promoted by the processed food industry to turn people against food science. They have a high percentage of the population hooked on processed foods and they don't want science undoing all their hard work. So this is their way of trying to discredit nutrition science.

A popular radio personality, with a stake in food sales, frequently invokes this argument. He once asked in feigned frustration, "Who knows what's healthy?"

I say the above argument is completely phony, and here's why. There's no area of science that I know of that doesn't have disagreements, and yet, he only raises this issue with food science.

Economics: Look at all the many disagreements between "experts". Is he confused by it? No. He firmly believes in free-market economics.

Climatology: "Experts" disagree all the time. Is he confused? No, he clearly comes down on one side of the global warming argument.

Environmental disagreements among "experts" are many. Is he confused? No.

Evolution: There have been disagreements among evolutionists. And there are ongoing disagreements between evolutionists and creationists. Is he confused by any of this? No.

Conclusion: No matter how difficult or complicated the science may be, in any field from economics to climatology, he has no problem making up his mind between all the conflicting statements made by "experts". He only has a problem with food science because he has a stake in food sales. He can't say that processed foods are healthy, so he seeks to do the next best thing. He does his best to discredit nutrition science.

Note: This popular radio personality really exists; I purposely left out his name. The point I'm making is how the system works to shape public opinion.

I assume these noes and comments after the statement are yours. I would appreciate it if you would highlight or change colors on your comments so we could see who is who.

Z

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

I assume these noes and comments after the statement are yours. I would appreciate it if you would highlight or change colors on your comments so we could see who is who.

Z

Everything is mine except what I put in quotation marks.

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Everything is mine except what I put in quotation marks.

That does not make sense. If everything is your but what is in quotes, then there is nothing in those statements but "experts" and "Who knows what's healthy?" Are the rest all your words? If that is true, why do you take things out of context and turn them around?

Z

[rubicon]

As harry Truman once wisely expressed and I paraphrase. I wish I could have a one armed economist.

Indeed all fields of study desire one armed experts.

However the implications in the food and medical community directly affect the masses and hence while science is never settled there needs to be some narrowing of the disputes.

The debate concerning GMO food products vis a vis organic, grass fed ,etc has serious implications. Feeding this ever increasing populations requires the need for innovative methods. GMO has been ongoing for many years.

Drug side affects and over treated medical issues leave people confused. so the upside down changes resulting from ACA are going to create more problems and the governments demands for electronics health records is placing enormous pressure on doctors.

In my view those claiming they have the answers are doing so plainly out of conceit

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

That does not make sense. If everything is your but what is in quotes, then there is nothing in those statements but "experts" and "Who knows what's healthy?" Are the rest all your words? If that is true, why do you take things out of context and turn them around?

Z

Okay, I think I understand what's confusing you. I'm not quoting the popular radio personality when I put the word "experts" in quotes. I was just trying to signify the fact that I don't really know whether or not the scientists in question were really experts. I'll gladly remove those quotes. It doesn't make much difference.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by rubicon

As harry Truman once wisely expressed and I paraphrase. I wish I could have a one armed economist.

Indeed all fields of study desire one armed experts.

However the implications in the food and medical community directly affect the masses and hence while science is never settled there needs to be some narrowing of the disputes.

The debate concerning GMO food products vis a vis organic, grass fed ,etc has serious implications. Feeding this ever increasing populations requires the need for innovative methods. GMO has been ongoing for many years.

Drug side affects and over treated medical issues leave people confused. so the upside down changes resulting from ACA are going to create more problems and the governments demands for electronics health records is placing enormous pressure on doctors.

In my view those claiming they have the answers are doing so plainly out of conceit

Do you feel you have dealt honestly with the issue I presented in my opining post?

You said there needs to be a narrowing of disputes. How does that relate to what the radio personality said?

[sunnyatlast]

Speaking of self-proclaimed food "experts"........

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

Speaking of self-proclaimed food "experts"........

I have never called myself a food expert - far from it. If you assumed that I think I am, that's your problem, not mine.

Red herring: Change the subject by attacking the OP.

[TheVillageChicken]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

I have never called myself a food expert - far from it. If you assumed that I think I am, that's your problem, not mine.

Red herring: Change the subject by attacking the OP.

Maybe they assumed you are an "expert" because you use this forum as a blog.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

Maybe they assumed you are an "expert" because you use this forum as a blog.

How do you define "blog".