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Old 08-06-2019, 09:44 AM
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13 shot, 6 killed this weekend in Baltimore, including a 12-year-old boy.
No national media outrage.
Why is that?
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:10 AM
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All of these countries have access to Hollywood movies and video games and the like.

Some of the foreign movies are even more violent than some of the Hollywood ones.

The problem is guns and access to them here in the United States and the NRA and their death grip on some.
"...what it is that is more prevalent in the USA but NOT in other countries..."
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:11 AM
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13 shot, 6 killed this weekend in Baltimore, including a 12-year-old boy.
No national media outrage.
Why is that?
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Because it wouldn’t fit someone’s agenda!
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:21 AM
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"...what it is that is more prevalent in the USA but NOT in other countries..."
He answered the question:
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The problem is guns and access to them here in the United States and the NRA and their death grip on some.
There are more answers too but it'll just get ugly on this forum if we give the actual answers - most of which everyone here already knows but chooses to ignore.
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:22 AM
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Because it wouldn’t fit someone’s agenda!
Better to have an agenda and try to do something, than have no agenda and do nothing.
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:23 AM
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Better to have an agenda and try to do something, than have no agenda and do nothing.
In this, Bogie Shooter and I agree. I think that alone should be pretty indicative.
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:27 AM
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Better to have an agenda and try to do something, than have no agenda and do nothing.
The agenda might not be addressing the root problem!
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:59 AM
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13 shot, 6 killed this weekend in Baltimore, including a 12-year-old boy.
No national media outrage.
Why is that?
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That is not news but business as usual in Baltimore, Chicago, and some other cities.

News is a "Man bites dog" situation, a relatively rare and particularly outrageous event.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:06 AM
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I read about a study many years ago in the prison system. The prisoners were asked why they had committed their crimes and the overwhelming answer was that they felt they had nothing to believe in and nothing to hope for so in essence they felt they had nothing to lose. I am not a gun advocate, I don't have one and I don't want one but don't think gun regulation is the solution. Nobody is going to convince me that walking into Walmart and killing innocent people is a sane act.
I was a student and then Student Director for Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners from 1987 to 1989 at the U of MN Law School. I was attached to Minnesota Correctional Facility-Stillwater. Probably handled about 40 cases myself or through students or via my co-Director.

Some of these prisoners had believed very much in something when they did their crimes. Often based on one of the Seven Deadly sins. Pride seemed to be the biggest and greed second. Lust and envy too. Not so much sloth. Nor gluttony. Anger played a big part though. Seven Deadly Sins

Some of these men had just done something stupid at the time and got caught. Like one stole some tools from a neighbor's garage. Worth a good amount of money though.

John Sandford's books are well done and have good portrayals of the criminal justice system in Minnesota. And his last covered Las Vegas and Los Angeles. John Sandford - The Official Website
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Old 08-06-2019, 12:48 PM
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In this, Bogie Shooter and I agree. I think that alone should be pretty indicative.

And I might add you responded in two sentences.
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Old 08-06-2019, 01:32 PM
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Better to have an agenda and try to do something, than have no agenda and do nothing.

The bottom line is that while there may be many agendas, up to this point NOTHING has been done. Nothing, as in zero!
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13 shot, 6 killed this weekend in Baltimore, including a 12-year-old boy.
No national media outrage.
Why is that?
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Weekend shootings in Chicago:

7 killed, 46 wounded and at one point, a hospital stopped accepting patients briefly because they couldn’t keep up.
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Old 08-06-2019, 04:03 PM
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13 shot, 6 killed this weekend in Baltimore, including a 12-year-old boy.
No national media outrage.
Why is that?
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I'm racking my brain trying to figure it out.
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Old 08-06-2019, 04:48 PM
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The bottom line is that while there may be many agendas, up to this point NOTHING has been done. Nothing, as in zero!
What do you think should be done? It is almost impossible to predict who is going to go off.

I know of no one, no group, no political party, no philosophy that would ever want or encourage a mass shooting, and I know no festering hate against any race or group of immigrants although it has been suggested time and time again by the mainstream media in the past few days.

I see no evidence at all. And if you think that the back and forth over Baltimore is racist, then you are wrong. It is about a city that needs to be cleaned up, literally and figuratively. We have the lowest numbers of unemployment in decades. That is a very good way to help with poverty. New York cleaned up crime. Baltimore can do it too. The government needs to be cleaned up in Baltimore. That is not racist to say or to think.
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Old 08-06-2019, 04:51 PM
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The bottom line is that while there may be many agendas, up to this point NOTHING has been done. Nothing, as in zero!
It's pretty obvious, at least from one side, is that the "primary agenda" is to ensure that not one single change to current gun laws...ever occurs.

The 'mental illness' red herring is getting really old, given that we don't have any more cases of it per capita...than almost every other country on this planet.

Given that FACT, common scientific methods dictate that after eliminating all that is the same...you start looking at what is different.

And given that even someone with even a modicum of intelligence knows what that difference is, that is where the real fear from the gun-nuts...comes into play.

I personally know a few in the aforementioned group, who still lament the loss...of full auto weapons.
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