[graciegirl]

Intelligent discussion now seems to have ended.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by blueash

For Gracie

Here is a link to the many press releases from the Islamic Center of Greater Cincinnati on most of the recent events involving Muslim attacks. There is nothing posted about Boston but perhaps they have not updated their website as they still list the 2012 Ramadan information. This mosque was in your neck of the woods.
Islamic Center of Greater Cincinnati

There was nothing on this site on this subject, no discussion at all of the terrorism. Our Catholic Womens Group toured that mosque, and it was a physical tour of a building, really not much in the form of interchange of ideas or a real welcome. Perhaps my expectations are skewed because Christians are taught to act warm and kind, even if they are not warm and kind.

If the Muslim community feel warm and caring of us who are non Muslims, then now is the time to show it. We are becoming more frightened.

Their statements aren't getting into the right circuits if you are correct, and I am sure you are. You are a bright person, Blueash, and much more educated than I am, for sure.

[OnTrack]

Although a few years old, I'm sure not much has changed statistically.

And given these statistics........

CLICK HERE

Monday, November 26, 2007
Odds of Dying in a Terrorist Attack


After 9/11, the fear of another attack on U.S. soil cleanly supplanted the fear of having one's ***** chopped off by a vengeful lover in the pantheon of irrational American fears. While we're constantly being told that another attack is imminent and that radical Islamic fundamentalists are two steps away from establishing a caliphate in Branson, Missouri, just how close are they? How do the odds of dying in a terrorist attack stack up against the odds of dying in other unfortunate situations? Well, let's take a look.

The following ratios were compiled using data from 2004 National Safety Council (NSC) Estimates, a report based on data from The National Center for Health Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control (CDC) was used.

You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

You are six times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack

You are eight times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

You are nine times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

You are eight times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

What's notably missing, is how much more likely you are to die from just a drunk driver....than by a terrorist.

Especially around here.

And yet, where's the outrage of happy hour starting at noon?

Obviously, this outrage and fear of brown-skinned Muslims is born more from ignorance, prejudice, bigotry and racism....than actuality.

Pretty damn sad when you think about it.


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[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by OnTrack

Although a few years old, I'm sure not much has changed statistically.

And given these statistics........

CLICK HERE






What's notably missing, is how much more likely you are to die from just a drunk driver....than by a terrorist.

Especially around here.

And yet, where's the outrage of happy hour starting at noon?

Obviously, this outrage and fear of brown-skinned Muslims is born more from ignorance, prejudice, bigotry and racism....than actuality.

Pretty damn sad when you think about it.


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Your statistics are not much comfort to our fellow villagers, the grandparents of Martin Richards.

A Muslim Extremist killed him, and blew off his little sisters leg and caused his mother to have to have brain surgery.

I'm done for tonight. I am very upset.

[OnTrack]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Your statistics are not much comfort to our fellow villagers, the grandparents of Martin Richards.

A Muslim Extremist killed him, and blew off his little sisters leg and caused his mother to have to have brain surgery.

I'm done for tonight. I am very upset.

ANY untimely or accidental death/murder....is a tragedy.

Motive has to be questioned, when extra weight is given to the lesser likelihood.


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[blueash]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

There was nothing on this site on this subject, no discussion at all of the terrorism. Our Catholic Womens Group toured that mosque, and it was a physical tour of a building, really not much in the form of interchange of ideas or a real welcome. Perhaps my expectations are skewed because Christians are taught to act warm and kind, even if they are not warm and kind.

If the Muslim community feel warm and caring of us who are non Muslims, then now is the time to show it. We are becoming more frightened.

Their statements aren't getting into the right circuits if you are correct, and I am sure you are. You are a bright person, Blueash, and much more educated than I am, for sure.

Sorry Gracie. You have to click on the left side where it says press releases. And Gracie, education is not the same as smart. You have great people smartness. I think that is often much better than book smartness. Not to suggest you don't have both as I have never checked your SAT scores.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by George1938

I'm German so don't throw rocks. Gracie is right on. If the German populace spoke up, maybe-just maybe, there would not have been a holocost (sp) !!
If the Japanese populace spoke up, maybe-just maybe !!!!!!!!!

Hitler held the German populace in fear after they knew what was going on........"if" they knew what was going on.

Prior to that, they adored him and had him on a pedestal.

Back in the mid to late 1960's I was friends with a German chemist who worked in our company......he had to be about ten years older than I was.

He felt a "need" to tell me that he had been recruited as a fourteen year old boy to serve in Hitler's Army.......he had no choice, according to him.

He carried great guilt. Nice guy. Highly educated chemist.

This was twenty+ years after the war ended. Our marine paint manufacturing corporation hired a lot of German chemists........they all came to America after the war.

They all "felt a need" to apologize "after the fact" ; guess it carried a stigma at the time to have been in Hitler's Army.

However, when I was doing my grandchildren's genealogy (their dad is part German, part Irish and part Scottish)....I came across hordes of his family's unknown "cousins" who had all died in Normandy and other battles.........fighting for the other side....meaning Germany.

That family originated in Baaden Baaden and then migrated across Germany. Obviously, my son's mom didn't even know them.........but due to the very very old family tree and all the records being researched by a cousin in this country, close to his family, I had knowledge of these Nazi's. ***

I'm sure they also were conscripted into their Army........without much of a say as to whether or not they approved........such as my friend the German chemist , as a fourteen year old boy.

****Many of them all died on the same days (meaning in the larger battles).......so although they had different birth dates, they had the same death dates.....