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Local Orlando news is airing that Caylee Anthony's remains have been found.04 mile from the Anthony home. How Sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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We all knew this day would come. How very sad that darling Caylee was born to that family!

I think it also mirrors the Scott Peterson and mother situation. I know she lied for him and had already given two? children away before he was born. It is frightening to think that this sort of thing( lack of feeling and devious behavior and lack of guilt) is a genetic inheritable trait...perhaps.
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I have been following this story on Nancy Grace with a great deal of sadness. Little three-year old Caylee was such an innocent, darling little baby. I was hoping against hope that they would find her alive.

The mother, Casey, has lied continually to the police throughout the last six months and has often changed her story. Casey has been in jail for some time now, charged with murder, even though they didn't have a body. Ironically, Casey's lawyer was successful this morning in getting the trial moved from January to March. Now the State will have more time to prepare their case against Casey, and this is a good thing.

Shortly later they found the bones of a young girl within one mile of the grandparent's home. The Forensics haven't verified yet that the bones found belong to Caylee, but it looks certain.

I am heartsick that a mother could do this to her baby. And leave her in a garbage bag in the trees. And continually lie to police and to everyone else about what happened. Casey has shown no remorse, and has always refused to co-operate with police. And her parents have defended her behavior.

What a sad, sad situation.
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I also have been following this sad, sad story. From what I've heard, Casey had a fight with her mother shortly before leaving the family house with Caylee for the last time. My feeling is that Casey never wanted that baby and was fiercely jealous of the bond between baby and grandmother. Being that Casey is truly a sociopath, with no conscience, what better way to get even with her mother and at the same time, set herself free to party. She is such a selfish, self serving, thieving, lying young woman. I just don't understand why her parents seem to be almost afraid of her and handle her with kid gloves. They can't be that stupid to believe that their daughter is a sweet, innocent person. So very, very tragic - such a beautiful baby.
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:20 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caylee_..._disappearance

I cannot understand what kind of mother would do this to her child just so that she could go put and play with adult friends?

Probably very little chance that this is not Caylee Anthony unless someone planted the evidence there for the publicity. There is that problem in cases like this which get so much media attention. Some crazy gets it in his or her head to get in the action by claiming to be the perpetrator, planting evidence, or submitting false information to police and/or the media.

Sad turn of events though all in all whatever happens with the identification of the body.

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I hope that they are "handling her with kid gloves' in order to get the truth.

I look at that adorable child and think how so many people would love to have children and .............

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I truly feel sorry for Casey. She never wanted this little girl. Her mother forced her to bear it and then keep it. Casey is obviously mentally ill. She will probably not survive in prison even if kept in isolation. The odds are pretty good that someone will "take care" of her.

I truly believe that had this girl gotten help much, much earlier, this tragedy would have never occurred. Our mental health system truly stinks. We need to start accepting that mental disorders are diseases and treat them accordingly rather than treating the mentally ill as someone to avoid and be ashamed of. Bedlam was closed a long, long time ago. Mental disorders are treated much like cancer was 30-50 years ago -- you avoid the person because you're afraid you might catch it; you don't get treatment because there's no cure anyway; you don't tell people you have it because you then become an outcast. Our prisons are overwhelmed with "criminals" who have many mental disorders. Casey will just be another in a cast of many. Quite honestly, I think she may have inherited her illness from her mother -- she doesn't look nor act like someone in complete control, either. (And now I'm off my soapbox.)
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I truly feel sorry for Casey. She never wanted this little girl. Her mother forced her to bear it and then keep it. Casey is obviously mentally ill. She will probably not survive in prison even if kept in isolation. The odds are pretty good that someone will "take care" of her.

I truly believe that had this girl gotten help much, much earlier, this tragedy would have never occurred. Our mental health system truly stinks. We need to start accepting that mental disorders are diseases and treat them accordingly rather than treating the mentally ill as someone to avoid and be ashamed of. Bedlam was closed a long, long time ago. Mental disorders are treated much like cancer was 30-50 years ago -- you avoid the person because you're afraid you might catch it; you don't get treatment because there's no cure anyway; you don't tell people you have it because you then become an outcast. Our prisons are overwhelmed with "criminals" who have many mental disorders. Casey will just be another in a cast of many. Quite honestly, I think she may have inherited her illness from her mother -- she doesn't look nor act like someone in complete control, either. (And now I'm off my soapbox.)
Casey Anthony hardly strikes me as mentally ill, Redwitch. There is a big problem with the mental health system in the general public's lack of understanding of various mental diseases. This has not been at all helped by movies like A Beautiful Mind
and One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest and even to a lesser extend Changeling but Casey Anthony does not seem like someone with delusions of any kind except maybe the one which she can get away with just dumping her daughter's body out on the woods near her grandparents' home. She probably would have been caught up in her lies a long time ago if not for Tropical Storm Fay.

Fay covered up the area in the woods where the dead body was recently discovered near the Anthony's (grandparents') house.

The problem may be how much lawyers are seen by the general public abusing the mental health system to get their clients lesser sentences as well as when lawyers play mind games with labels of "mentally ill" in custody and divorce proceedings as well as probate matters.

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Default She doesn't strike me as mentally ill either.

Nor does she seem unstable. She seems to have been catered to and not shown the realities of life for a LONG time. She appears to me to feel entitled to live her life selfishly, although apparently forced, or ...pressured to give birth to Caylee Marie, a real person.

A lot of things happen that we don't plan, or want to happen. Religion says it is a test, but we all face choices every day, the religious and the non religious. I think that Casey Anthony is lacking in character and has no guilt. I don't know how you get guilt and we Catholics have too much I am told, but it is necessary to know that killing anyone is not right or moral or good or understandable.

She may be a sociopath. She may be spoiled. She may be misunderstood. But she is as guilty as Hell.

JUST MY humble opinion.

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Casey Anthony hardly strikes me as mentally ill, Redwitch. There is a big problem with the mental health system in the general public's lack of understanding of various mental diseases. This has not been at all helped by movies like A Beautiful Mind
and One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest and even to a lesser extend Changeling but Casey Anthony does not seem like someone with delusions of any kind except maybe the one which she can get away with just dumping her daughter's body out on the woods near her grandparents' home. She probably would have been caught up in her lies a long time ago if not for Tropical Storm Fay.

Fay covered up the area in the woods where the dead body was recently discovered near the Anthony's (grandparents') house.

The problem may be how much lawyers are seen by the general public abusing the mental health system to get their clients lesser sentences as well as when lawyers play mind games with labels of "mentally ill" in custody and divorce proceedings as well as probate matters.
Actually, "A Beautiful Mind" was a fairly accurate depiction of one's slide into the abyss of psychosis and the impact on one's family. Cuckoo's nest allowed Nicholson's genius to depict the plight of a personality disorder in the grips of abuses as they occurred in the state hospital system.

Maternal infanticide, fortunately a very rare event, typically involves a likewise rare but VERY dangerous and potentially lethal mental illness that occurs in the post-partum period. this is called post-partum psychosis. This is not post-partum blues or the clinical entity, post-partum depression. A mother with post-partum psychosis is delusional (complete loss of touch with reality) and typically has some crazed notion that she's given offspring to the devil, or that the child must be sacrificed etc. It requires immediate hospitalization and separation from the newborn/infant. Even more rare is the development of a psychotic illness after the post-partum period where the child again becomes incorporated into the delusional system of the mother and the mother kills the child while psychotic.

It seems fairly evident that Casey Anthony's level of functioning through this period of time was not influenced by a psychotic mental illness, since, if that were the case, her attorneys would have had an obligation to have her examined and her psychotic state addressed. Of course , it would be irresponsible to comment on her mental state without examining her and having all the history. One can only speculate.

So, for the moment, let's not talk about Casey Anthony, let's ask... what would make a NON-DELUSIONAL,NON-PSYCHOTIC mother kill her child? Probably the most common reason this occurs is due to the confluence of character pathology (immaturity, selfishness, greed, irresponsibility, narcissism, sociopathy) and often, substance abuse (drug/alcohol addiction) and an unwanted child. Often the child is killed and the intention was not to kill the child...eg: an immature, irresponsible,drug dependent sociopathic mother wants to go out and party and gives her 4 year old ambien and alcohol so they sleep through the night... only to return to find the child stopped breathing (a case for second degree murder)... Or, imagine someone with borderline intelligence, poor, no support system, who can barely take care of herself, no spouse, living alone with an infant who has cried days due to a severe ear infection and mom shakes the baby to death to get it to stop crying. (not a rare event). In 2004, The American Journal of Psychiatry did a nice review article on this subject, written by Margaret Spinelli, MD.
The killing of a child is so repugnant and horrific that it demands retribution. We will all get to watch as the law now determines the course of this story.
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rshoffer,
Great post.

Now could you explain the grandparents? (especially the mom). Some serious disfunction in that family...and they love the media. How do you raise a daughter that turns out like that? Have they been in denial about their daughter all her life?
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rshoffer,
Great post.

Now could you explain the grandparents? (especially the mom). Some serious disfunction in that family...and they love the media. How do you raise a daughter that turns out like that? Have they been in denial about their daughter all her life?
Actulaay, I have not watched the grandparents actions so I'll reserve opinions there for now.
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OK.
I look forward to any more insights you have....
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Old 12-13-2008, 01:17 AM
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Personally, I hope they seek the Death Penalty for Casey Anthony. If they do not, I hope they put her into the general population of the prison where she will surely be taken care of by someone. Child killers and molesters are not tolerated be even the most hardened of criminals. I honestly do not feel one bit sorry for what happens to her now. This entire thing just turns my stomach.

Casey reminds me of a female Scott Peterson. Complete Sociopath! There is not room in society for this type of personality and why should we as taxpayers pay for their care and feeding. She's a waste of space on this planet.

As far as the grandparents go, I have watched them on Larry King and they are either delusional or complete liars. I'm sorry, a mother knows her child. I think the mother Cindy (maybe not the dad) but the mother knows that Casey has been lying through her teeth. So, sorry, no pity there either.

When I see the clip of little Caylee singing, "You are my sunshine," I can't help but cry. What a precious, beautiful little spirit. She deserved so much better. This is a very, very, sad situation.

So, no pity for Casey or the grandparents from me.
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I've been following this case since the beginning and I've always felt that there's been a sick & evil "family cover-up",re;George (a former homicide detective),Cindy(a nurse) and the brother Lee. Casey is a by-product of parents that enabled her all her life to be an immoral,irresponsible and self-serving egomaniac. Now, they are expecting to "get her off of a murder charge by lying for her and hiring "PR" spokesmens, plus getting the "top" defense lawyers & forensic experts in the country. And now Cindy & Casey are writing a book??!! (another OJ) It truly makes me sick to think our tax dollars are being wasted on these people because of all the lies this whole sick & evil family has fabricated and falsely led the FBI & Orlando PD around for the last 6 mos. I hope to God that little Caylee gets justice and the WHOLE truth will come out. This case stinks to high heavens.
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