[billethkid]

was when she finally called 911 for help....when she said the car smelled like a dead body.
Then her brain led her to a conclusion maybe Casey did do away with the grand daughter. Now not being able to do anything about Caylee, she shifts to the preservation of her daughter's life.....no matter what it takes.
My theory about the Anthonys parading in front of any camera that was in the area.....it provided a platform for her to propogate her new goal of saving Casey in the public's mind.
The vision the public needs to keep in the fore front (as terrible as it is)...an adult getting a roll of duct tape, taping Caylee's mouth....she was obviously alive...if not why tape the mouth. Now vizualize Casey, doing the taping....that is what needs to not get lost during the upcoming shenanigans that will come forth from the lawyers. There was no ransoming....no molestation sexual or otherwise....what possible reason would anybody else have to do such a terrible act. None.
A non remorseful, warped person.....Casey Anthony.....she will get away with murder. That is what lawyers do....they are well versed and trained to either use or hide behind the letter of the law, regardless if guilty. It is the scourge of the profession.

BTK

[SteveZ]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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I could NEVER have an abortion, but sometimes they do have a need. I have never marched or contributed, but as a Catholic, I still can see that sometimes it is a choice.

I don't believe that we are seeing young people raised in a way to consider their offsprings disposable. I think that maternal and paternal instinct is in place the way it always was.

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Also as a Catholic, I disagree. The child is never the enemy, from the first heartbeat onward. Neither parent has a right to kill, because there is no "bright line" as to when it's okay to kill and when it isn't. If it not okay at 2 years old, why is it okay at any trimester?

Life is not fair, but killing does not make it any "fairer."

When we (at our a-little-beyond-middle age) were growing up, our parents were surprised that what we took as "natural" and "our rights" were different than theirs, because they did not have the same stuff or information. It happens. And it has happened again with the youngsters through age 40. They've grown up in a Rowe v. Wade time frame, subject to the barrage of TV and print advertisements geared to sexual activity (Viagra, herpes treatments, pregnancy test, etc), as well as entertainment media which praises open relationships, premarital sex, abortion, and other such behavior. They have become totally desensitized to it all, and take it a "normal" and "natural" as life styles and behavior, while we try to ignore it. It has become "their way" and it affects their reasoning and justifications.

Now, that's not to say every 7-40 year old will kill a two year old because of inconvenience or burden, but the potential for such action over segments of the population which would not have previously considered such an act (for whatever reason) 40 years ago is now desensitized to its horror.

I hope I'm wrong on this, but human behavior in this country is going further downhill as less and less becomes shocking, and more and more is condoned or praised as acceptable.

If the maternal instinct is still as prevalent, why are there 1.5 million abortions in this country each year, and why are there more kids proportionally-to-population in DCF custody than ever before? There's a good reason why The Villages Channel Two keeps soliciting people to be Guardians ad Litem, and why each DFC caseworker has caseloads averaging close 100 kids each. One trip to a place like Great Oaks Village in Orlando (a "group home" facility) and listening to those kids is utterly frightening.

We've proven as a people not to be as smart as we think we are.

The other day I saw again Dickens' A Christmas Carol. The last scene with the "Ghost of Christmas Present" where he's describing the two children under his robe tells it all.

[graciegirl]

As a grandmother I try to avoid abortions in my family by talking straight about sex instead of acting like it isn't happening in the world. My favorite line is when we are watching a huge sports event is to say to my grandchildren...ALL OF Them, no matter the age..

"See all of those people there? They all were born because of having sex. If you aren't planning to have children, protect against pregnancy when you become sexually active."

As to all of the other things you said, you are probably right Steve. As I grow older I know more questions than answers. Only God knows what is truly right and wrong. I know that my grandmother said. "There are things far worse than death.".

[SteveZ]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

As a grandmother I try to avoid abortions in my family by talking straight about sex instead of acting like it isn't happening in the world. My favorite line is when we are watching a huge sports event is to say to my grandchildren...ALL OF Them, no matter the age..

"See all of those people there? They all were born because of having sex. If you aren't planning to have children, protect against pregnancy when you become sexually active."

As to all of the other things you said, you are probably right Steve. As I grow older I know more questions than answers. Only God knows what is truly right and wrong. I know that my grandmother said. "There are things far worse than death.".

before I forget... a Merry Christmas to you and yours!

[tucson]

The latest in this sordid story is that the grandparents want donations from the public to pay for Caylee's funeral!!! Also, read on Orlando Sentinel they signed a 2million contract for Lifetime to do a story of which there is a petition set up against it on ThePetitionSite.com if anyone is compelled to sign.