[J1ceasar]

At least you can complain via letter and respond " all lives matter"

[J1ceasar]

Should they sue themselves???

[sharonl7340]

It doesn't matter whether it is appropriate or not. They will do what they want to do until someone brings a compliant. I am a federal civil servant as well and my experience is that leadership will do what they want to do. With that said, It is obvious that it was not vetted with their OGC and passed by them (the resolution probably was but not the email). The second thing is that it is already out there and has been seen. What do you do at this point?

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by transplanted

Tell me whether or not that the ending of the email is appropriate in the federal workplace. I understand the resolution and am fine with it - I want to know if a supervisor, in the federal civil service, can promote the importance of one race over all others in an email to a staff of all races (not the resolution, but the bottom line of the email that comes over HIS signature).

NO. Its not right. Black lives matter no more than all lives. Everyone needs to stop making like only one race has ever been discriminated against. Slavery was a abolished over 100 yrs ago. I never owned a slave and Im not apologizing for my ancestors. And no one alive today was ever a slave. My brother at times was nasty to me when we were kids. Do I destroy his house, beat him etc for what occurred 50 years ago? NO. Stop this garbage. Get a life. Raise your family and live like civilized people

[allsport]

I spent 40 yrs in federal service, most in middle to upper management hiring probably thousands of employees and never had EEOC involved with hiring. I did hundreds of evaluations and never had EEOC interference with any of them. If you do your job correctly and have data to back your evaluations then you will have no problems. I did see supervisors who did not have data to support what they said and use personal bias to evaluate get into trouble with EEO complaints and have to reverse what they did. That is not the fault of EEOC, it is the fault of bad supervision. If you are fair and have data, it is not a problem. When you try to use age, sex or race to evaluate, you lose. That is why we have EEOC. I had some cases filed against me when I fired people but NEVER lost one case because I always had the data and the attorneys representing the agency loved to get my cases because they were so well documented.

[gemini5001]

I agrre with you.
All of it is fine except for that last line before the signature. Uncalled for.
All Lives Matter !

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

NO. Its not right. Black lives matter no more than all lives. Everyone needs to stop making like only one race has ever been discriminated against. Slavery was a abolished over 100 yrs ago. I never owned a slave and Im not apologizing for my ancestors. And no one alive today was ever a slave. My brother at times was nasty to me when we were kids. Do I destroy his house, beat him etc for what occurred 50 years ago? NO. Stop this garbage. Get a life. Raise your family and live like civilized people

A total dichotomy meant to divert, regarding "slavery" being the only thing...regarding discrimination against blacks.

Watch this documentary...I DARE you.

13TH (click here)

[newgirl]

Yes

[NotGolfer]

I'm not a lawyer....but the BLM issue...people just need to Google BLM for their website and see what they're all about. It's not necessarily about race for them. They're using that from what I'm gathering. Of course BLM BUT that said....we're all the same, we bleed the same, we're made in God's image, ALL lives matter no matter the pigmentation of skin. So from that I'd say what was put on an e-mail is not appropriate.

[tlshoe]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Not picking on you specifically, but it is that basic misunderstanding (by so many folks) of what "Black Lives Matter" actually means (which does NOT include those criminals who are doing the looting/arson/violence)...that is the problem.

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Look at these attachments...for my point.

I'm wondering about the use of the parable of the lost sheep as regards BLM. There are many good things that can be said about this wonderful parable, and at some levels it can be usefully applied in a good way for BLM. The problem is that the sheep in this parable represents a person who has wandered into sin, by his own free will, and now needs to repent of his sins for forgiveness and return to the fold he left.

[huange@verizon.net]

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1791304][SIZE="3"]Not picking on you specifically, but it is that basic misunderstanding (by so many folks) of what "Black Lives Matter" actually means (which does NOT include those criminals who are doing the looting/arson/violence)...that is the problem.

Good biblical point, but wouldn’t “BLAM (Black lives also matter)” also fit the passage, as well as being inclusive of something whole? Can’t you also apply that 1 lost sheep to blue, red, white, brown, yellow? And, how much “lost” can one get as an addict, criminal, sinner, murderer...?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by tlshoe

I'm wondering about the use of the parable of the lost sheep as regards BLM. There are many good things that can be said about this wonderful parable, and at some levels it can be usefully applied in a good way for BLM. The problem is that the sheep in this parable represents a person who has wandered into sin, by his own free will, and now needs to repent of his sins for forgiveness and return to the fold he left.

I would simply point out, that racism/bigotry/prejudice/xenophobia/misogyny/Etc. are ALSO sins...purposely done with "free will."

Which, quite frankly, is why I am surprised and confused that so many Christians...don't seem to have a problem with it.


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[Taltarzac725]

Just a moment...

Did find this very interesting. My now about 18 year old nephew when he was about six and visiting the Villages pointed at his skin and told me "it is only this deep" while holding up two fingers pinched together. And this was around 2008 or so.

He had already seen a lot of racism at age 6.

He liked to feed the buffalo around Sumter Landing carrots.

[perrjojo]

Black Lives Matter is a great Slogan and I agree but how many people know what the BLM platform is? I have sited two articles but there are many more. It’s good to know what you are supporting.

Here's What Black Lives Matter D.C. Is Calling For, And Where The City Stands : NPR
https://www.kusi.com/law-professor-a...-lives-matter/

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I think a lot of people are confusing (or possibly intentionally re-interpreting) the organization known as BLM and the phrase itself, Black Lives Matter.

BLM is an organization, an activist group, that has a specific agenda and plans and strategies. Not everyone agrees or likes that group and in fact, some black folks distance themselves from it.

Black lives matter.

Not also. When you say also (to whoever said BLAM) - you are basically stating that black lives are NOT humanity - but that they count anyway. Despite the fact that they aren't "everyone else." That is exactly and entirely contrary to the point. Black lives aren't an also. They're not an aside, they're not a "by the way" and they're not "in addition to" everyone else. Black lives are an integral part of the whole. When humanity embraces this, no one will ever need to say "black lives matter" again.