[jimjamuser]

The poison oak and poison ivy scene was a very, very micro-detail as to whether it was fake or not. Elliott's character might not have been able to find the REAL poisonous ones in time for his presentation to the Germans ANYWAY. And he would have had to wear gloves and quickly wash them. What hardened cowboy is going to do that? And for all I know, disturbing poison ivy or oak might (?) throw off airborne particles that could cause a rash. So, I would NOT have changed that if I were the director. The main point of the scene was to prove the main statement that only 59% of them will survive the journey. As to Elsa Duttons actor "over-acting" - she is the central NARRATOR so she is set up to be innocent and there is a foreshadowing of peril and near doom for her. ( She does have an acquaintanceship with a Native American weapon in episode 2) She did NOT overact there. I always have trouble seeing over-acting in any movie - maybe that's just me?
I was only able to see episodes 1 and 2 because we don't have Paramount Plus. We get regular Paramount so maybe I should try harder to see if I can get Episode 3 or more future ones? But my general rating for episodes 1 and 2 is that it is great - dramatic, authentically realistic, and VERY much action. I don't ever expect more in a series. PS 1883 is great, but "The Expanse" is even greater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by collie1228

I took Prime Video's $.99 per month intro deal for Paramount+, just so we could watch 1883. So far it's pretty boring to us. The young girl ruins it for me, and the story is just plodding along. Hopefully, like Yellowstone, it will get a lot better after the first five or six episodes.

Which young girl ? The unhappy widow's daughter?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

I love Yellowstone, and I am watching 1883. I try to suspend disbelief when I'm being entertained, so I can enjoy the show.

Yes, suspend disbelief. Reality has enough to be sarcastic about!

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Which young girl ? The unhappy widow's daughter?

Both the unhappy widow and her daughter are dead. The one that was mentioned is the Dutton girl.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Interesting show. I am enjoying watching a couple of vocal artists doing their thing at acting. They are not doing a very bad job of it, so it makes it pretty interesting. Sam Elliot has always been one of my favorites, and his black partner is doing a great job. Since we are only watching that show on P+ we just sign into our daughter's account.

The black partner IS "solid". Many singers have acting and even other skills. Talent IS talent. Sting was a good character actor in a Sy/Fy movie that I saw several years ago. And David Bowie was the lead (and good) in "The Man Who Fell To Earth":

[Jeffery M]

I am enjoying 1883. The show exemplifies the difficulties that pioneers experienced heading westward back in those days. It is difficult today in modern times to imagine how much of a hardship it was to cross the plains and mountains under terribly harsh conditions. People back then had to be tough or they would die.
If you are interested in other stories similar to 1883 there was an older miniseries that I loved called "Centennial". It can be watched on the Starz channel now. It is a tale that spans from 18th century American frontier to the year 1978 in Colorado. The story starts billions of years ago as the Earth was forming and the how the area of Colorado's environment developed. Next the story goes on to an Indian tribesman teaching his young son about the ways of nature and man's relationship to it. This occurs during a time before the appearance of white people. Then shortly thereafter time advances several decades and introduces a great character named Pasquinel, who is a French Canadian fur trapper. He is the first white man to contact the local tribes and he manages to open up trade with the tribes. Later the migration begins to the area. There are Indian wars, cattle drives, scandals, modernization, tragedy, and beauty as well, as the story progresses. The series ends up in contemporary times but with always an influence linked from the past. Centennial is filled with great actors. A truly remarkable series that gives you a sense of the adventure of discovery.

[Boomer]

Oh my, my. . .

Dear Messrs. Shorzenabunch:

I just tuned in and here I see the I’m being heckled over my smartazz take on that poison ivy scene.

I guess some of you are so conditioned to either complaining or expecting others on TOTV to complain that you go around loaded for bear.

The posts, that are taking me to task, clearly illustrate that a sense of humor is on a spectrum and at one end there are those who take everything literally.

(Hey, Mintz — Thank your for getting it. I always appreciate a little banter. I guess I better not ever write anything about the anachronisms I used to spot in Mash. These guys would circle up and peck the heck outa me for noticing.)

Good thing I am not wired to take things like this seriously. Not the poison ivy scene and not the hassles here either. Some posters are always just itchin’ to take umbrage. Goes with the territory.

Oh well, this is getting impossible to explain, and I have to get back to my real life for now. (Don’t get too happy, Messrs. Shorzenabunch. This is not a dramatic exit. I’ll be back sometime to talk more about 1883 — which I like, btw.)

Boomerang Boomer

[Boomer]

Whoops. . .I hit submit on that last post and forget to add a note to jj who lectured me about why they did not use real poison ivy.

C’mon, think about it, OK. . .But if a light bulb (or is it lightbulb?) does not go off above your head, will you
promise me that the next time you are in a waiting room somewhere, and you spot a plant sitting in a dark corner, will you walk over and feel it? Please.

Sincerely,
Boomer

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Oh my, my. . .

Dear Messrs. Shorzenabunch:

I just tuned in and here I see the I’m being heckled over my smartazz take on that poison ivy scene.

I guess some of you are so conditioned to either complaining or expecting others on TOTV to complain that you go around loaded for bear.

The posts, that are taking me to task, clearly illustrate that a sense of humor is on a spectrum and at one end there are those who take everything literally.

(Hey, Mintz — Thank your for getting it. I always appreciate a little banter. I guess I better not ever write anything about the anachronisms I used to spot in Mash. These guys would circle up and peck the heck outa me for noticing.)

Good thing I am not wired to take things like this seriously. Not the poison ivy scene and not the hassles here either. Some posters are always just itchin’ to take umbrage. Goes with the territory.

Oh well, this is getting impossible to explain, and I have to get back to my real life for now. (Don’t get too happy, Messrs. Shorzenabunch. This is not a dramatic exit. I’ll be back sometime to talk more about 1883 — which I like, btw.)

Boomerang Boomer

Don't even get me started on "Medical Shows"... Oy, Vey...

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Don't even get me started on "Medical Shows"... Oy, Vey...

Shhhhhhh, save yourself!

Don’t get me started on anachronisms. . .

But. . .while I have you here, there was a Mash episode where they were singing something to the tune of M-I-CK-E-Y, etc. But, the Mickey Mouse Club started on television in 1955 and the Korean War ended in 1953.

That has been bothering me for years. I never got around to writing to Hawkeye about it though.

Uh, oh! INCOMING!

Boomer

[Bjeanj]

I watch shows for their entertainment value. Not too much critical thinking unless someone “jumps the shark”. My husband notices everything so when he points it out, then I see it.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

the poison oak and poison ivy scene was a very, very micro-detail as to whether it was fake or not. Elliott's character might not have been able to find the real poisonous ones in time for his presentation to the germans anyway. And he would have had to wear gloves and quickly wash them. What hardened cowboy is going to do that? And for all i know, disturbing poison ivy or oak might (?) throw off airborne particles that could cause a rash. So, i would not have changed that if i were the director. The main point of the scene was to prove the main statement that only 59% of them will survive the journey. As to elsa duttons actor "over-acting" - she is the central narrator so she is set up to be innocent and there is a foreshadowing of peril and near doom for her. ( she does have an acquaintanceship with a native american weapon in episode 2) she did not overact there. I always have trouble seeing over-acting in any movie - maybe that's just me?
I was only able to see episodes 1 and 2 because we don't have paramount plus. We get regular paramount so maybe i should try harder to see if i can get episode 3 or more future ones? But my general rating for episodes 1 and 2 is that it is great - dramatic, authentically realistic, and very much action. I don't ever expect more in a series. Ps 1883 is great, but "the expanse" is even greater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the expanse is so intelligent that most would need the martian mind expander on forbidden planet.
Likewise interstellar for those who are mind building for the mental olympics
or the time dimensional travel of arrival.
Bon appetit

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by boomer

oh my, my. . .

Dear messrs. Shorzenabunch:

I just tuned in and here i see the i’m being heckled over my smartazz take on that poison ivy scene.

I guess some of you are so conditioned to either complaining or expecting others on totv to complain that you go around loaded for bear.

The posts, that are taking me to task, clearly illustrate that a sense of humor is on a spectrum and at one end there are those who take everything literally.

(hey, mintz — thank your for getting it. I always appreciate a little banter. I guess i better not ever write anything about the anachronisms i used to spot in mash. These guys would circle up and peck the heck outa me for noticing.)

good thing i am not wired to take things like this seriously. Not the poison ivy scene and not the hassles here either. Some posters are always just itchin’ to take umbrage. Goes with the territory.

Oh well, this is getting impossible to explain, and i have to get back to my real life for now. (don’t get too happy, messrs. Shorzenabunch. This is not a dramatic exit. I’ll be back sometime to talk more about 1883 — which i like, btw.)

boomerang boomer

hey boomer. Keep them coming. Most enjoy being informed by totv participants. Sort of like the wind beneath our wings.
As for the detractors fly over them too and grace them with your other gifts

[Boomer]

For years I have heard the expression, as in, “I had to run all over Hell’s Half Acre” — as a metaphor for having to go way out of your way to get something. I have used those words many times, but until a few days ago, I had no idea that Hell’s Half Acre was a real place in Ft. Worth, TX, with a lot of. . .colorful history.

A Google of Hell’s Half Acte will take you to a Ft. Worth website and also to the Texas State Historical Asociation where you can read all about it.

I would say that it looks like 1883 pretty well captures what Hell’s Half Acre was like back then.

Miss Kitty never would have let things get out of hand like that at the Long Branch. And Billy Bob Thornton sure ain’t no Mr. Dillon — although, Billy Bob had his own way of doing what he could.

. . .Speaking of Miss Kitty and Mr. Dillon — well, I am not one to gossip. . .but. . .I once “noticed” that in one of the early Gunsmoke episodes, the two of them were coming down the stairs of the Long Branch — and it was morning (gasp)— and we all know Miss Kitty lived upstairs, don’t we. . .

Gladys Boomer

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Both the unhappy widow and her daughter are dead. The one that was mentioned is the Dutton girl.

That's right. The daughter got shot in the native American raid, I forgot.