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[Golfingnut]

This documentary made most cry, and caused the separation of beliefs between members of the same family. However, is still considered untrue by some.

Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God
2012 Film

[rubicon]

There has been much discussion concerning atheists but from my point of view how can one factually claim to be an atheist? Atheists believe that God does not exist. However that claim would require proof. An agnostic more likely fits better. As to Christians, Muslims etc they have something to point to such as the complex mechanism of this universe, earth and its inhabitants. Additionally whether through written documentation and word of mouth, or whether one believes its authenticity, we have substantially more of the world population leaning toward the belief of a higher power. For purposes of this discussion, I am not saying that belief by many makes it fact only that to any degree of certainty those with a belief outnumber those who absolutely do not believe in God, intelligent design, etc Again that is why I believe agnostic is a better fit because some can shrug their shoulders and say Ï simply do not know". ....and that is a lot different than absolutely not no way no how . Essentially at our last breath we will know or not.

As to good or bad people we are products of our environment and genes need we say more?

[donb9006]

Originally Posted by rubicon

There has been much discussion concerning atheists but from my point of view how can one factually claim to be an atheist? Atheists believe that God does not exist. However that claim would require proof. An agnostic more likely fits better. As to Christians, Muslims etc they have something to point to such as the complex mechanism of this universe, earth and its inhabitants. Additionally whether through written documentation and word of mouth, or whether one believes its authenticity, we have substantially more of the world population leaning toward the belief of a higher power. For purposes of this discussion, I am not saying that belief by many makes it fact only that to any degree of certainty those with a belief outnumber those who absolutely do not believe in God, intelligent design, etc Again that is why I believe agnostic is a better fit because some can shrug their shoulders and say Ï simply do not know". ....and that is a lot different than absolutely not no way no how . Essentially at our last breath we will know or not.

As to good or bad people we are products of our environment and genes need we say more?

We're programmed by nature to be "led" by a leader. Just as there is an alpha in animals that the other animals follow...sometimes to their death. Are we that different than the animals...?

There is no "proof" needed to claim something doesn't exist. Proof is only needed to show...SHOW...something does exist. It goes back to the talking squirrel...there are none...until one is produced.

I'm of the "I don't know" camp...because...I don't know. But I also believe you don't either.

[billethkid]

another point of vue:

The Burden of Proof