[Serenoa]

[QUOTE=KayakerNC;931127]Logic? We don't need no stinking logic! Preppers GOTTA prep.

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good one!

[Lauren Sweeny]

Ok folks,where would you decide to go when leaving TV? Mountains ? From what I have read,seen, out , Blue ridge, out West , Colorado or Montana sounds safe for those who think of long time survival . Of course if it is some type of chemical or biological problem, many states or communities would barricade or quarantine those coming or going. Most folks would want to try to go North but that is the most condensed populated areas. What is your plan? Maybe I' ll follow you[emoji6]

[borjo]

I definitely would hunker down right here in my house. I've got supplies including masks and the usual water and water filters, batteries, security, etc. I'm too old to hike, don't want to run out of gas on the road and be stranded in Timbuktu.

[buggyone]

Hunker down in your house? What kind of disasters are we talking about that would necessitate leaving The Villages?

I asked that before and got answers that included sinkholes, floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, and zombies.

A sinkhole does not require bugging out - just go to a hotel. Floods do not happen widespread here, tornado gives no warning, no earthquakes, and zombies are at Brownwood frequently. No reason to evacuate.

We are many times safer here than in an urban setting like New York, Washington, or San Francisco.

[Lauren Sweeny]

Why leave TV ? Here are my reasons. First my heart would go out to all the unprepared persons,the sick, handicapped , elderly in-firmed etc.These folks would be looking for someone or somewhere to get help and resources in any type if emergency or disaster situation.
Considering the emergency is long term , ( meaning reality ) these people will be relying on government, FEMA and the Red Cross to come help. We saw what happened during Katrina and in Sandy. Here in TV we would hope and expect our friends and neighbors to pitch in to help BUT only so much goes so far .....what then ? Chaos,hunger death, remember Katrina?
Better to take care of yourself and immediate family needs and get to a a more private/ secure place where your group can maintain a bit of control of your people,supplies and resources.
It is inevitable ( probable) that in the near future ; some biological ( either by act of nature or intended dispersal) pandemic will effect the major population areas . The weather patterns have radically changed and data suggest will continue to do so for several years, It indicates weather pattern changes, higher tides, increased drought , severe lightening and hail,tornadoes,hurricanes all changing in strength and duration. Radiation from the sun has also gained more strength with pockets in our atmosphere showing up more frequently and stronger in intensity. ( burning up birds recently). I do not even want to go to EMP from sun or elsewhere,meteors off trajectory, Plum Island escapees,terrorists, ..get the sad picture. This is not something to dwell on but a fact of the age we live in ...this is going on outside our TV bubble folks! What will you do ....drink wine and laugh?
Do not coming looking for those of us who are prepared...Remember Esops fable about the ant and the grasshopper...so be it....I wish you all the best with you decisions!

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by Lauren Sweeny

Why leave TV ? Here are my reasons. First my heart would go out to all the unprepared persons,the sick, handicapped , elderly in-firmed etc.These folks would be looking for someone or somewhere to get help and resources in any type if emergency or disaster situation.
Considering the emergency is long term , ( meaning reality ) these people will be relying on government, FEMA and the Red Cross to come help. We saw what happened during Katrina and in Sandy. Here in TV we would hope and expect our friends and neighbors to pitch in to help BUT only so much goes so far .....what then ? Chaos,hunger death, remember Katrina?
Better to take care of yourself and immediate family needs and get to a a more private/ secure place where your group can maintain a bit of control of your people,supplies and resources.
It is inevitable ( probable) that in the near future ; some biological ( either by act of nature or intended dispersal) pandemic will effect the major population areas . The weather patterns have radically changed and data suggest will continue to do so for several years, It indicates weather pattern changes, higher tides, increased drought , severe lightening and hail,tornadoes,hurricanes all changing in strength and duration. Radiation from the sun has also gained more strength with pockets in our atmosphere showing up more frequently and stronger in intensity. ( burning up birds recently). I do not even want to go to EMP from sun or elsewhere,meteors off trajectory, Plum Island escapees,terrorists, ..get the sad picture. This is not something to dwell on but a fact of the age we live in ...this is going on outside our TV bubble folks! What will you do ....drink wine and laugh?
Do not coming looking for those of us who are prepared...Remember Esops fable about the ant and the grasshopper...so be it....I wish you all the best with you decisions!

Major population area? That's not us.

I don't think it matters how much you stockpile, if a real situation happens it won't be enough. Katrina & Sandy? There was plenty of warning, people were told to evacuate and chose not to. They then added to the problem by having to have their sorry ash selves rescued.

I believe that in times of crisis the good in people comes out. Saw it after 911, people pulled together and helped one another.

Instead of hoarding, drama and panic I like to think that people will pool their resources and get through it the best they can. While they're at it maybe they'll feel a little charitable toward the people who will be flocking here from South Florida.

You just have to believe in the Rule of Abundance. If you have wine, share it.

[Lauren Sweeny]

Clogged roads for evacuation,no gas ,not enough ready small cash to pay for,food,water,gas etc..would help a person make the decision as to stay or leave. This was stated by many many people caught up in a mass exodus from several disasters recently across the globe.
The haves( prepared folks) vs Have nots( needy) will always be in confrontation when events last too long and supplies or help run out.
Newspaper articles from around the globe show long lines, frustrated people and gun toting individuals in all types of disasters,man made or natural.
Pooling resources works only within small very organized groups of prepared people willing to have a group leader or leaders making the important decisions.
Without some sort of organized leadership there is chaos! Disaster organization means; goods inventoried and securely stored,who has access to food water guns,ammo, MEDS.
Needed would be individuals from the group to maintain leadership teams,security teams, individuals to oversee medication,stocks of food & water, shelter,transportation etc.
All of the above info is referred to in disaster preparedness manuals .
When an individual is desperate anything can happen, emotions, frustration and anger beat out altruism in the real world.
We may be Americas Friendly town but outside are borders....?

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by Lauren Sweeny

Clogged roads for evacuation,no gas ,not enough ready small cash to pay for,food,water,gas etc..would help a person make the decision as to stay or leave. This was stated by many many people caught up in a mass exodus from several disasters recently across the globe.
The haves( prepared folks) vs Have nots( needy) will always be in confrontation when events last too long and supplies or help run out.
Newspaper articles from around the globe show long lines, frustrated people and gun toting individuals in all types of disasters,man made or natural.
Pooling resources works only within small very organized groups of prepared people willing to have a group leader or leaders making the important decisions.
Without some sort of organized leadership there is chaos! Disaster organization means; goods inventoried and securely stored,who has access to food water guns,ammo, MEDS.
Needed would be individuals from the group to maintain leadership teams,security teams, individuals to oversee medication,stocks of food & water, shelter,transportation etc.
All of the above info is referred to in disaster preparedness manuals .
When an individual is desperate anything can happen, emotions, frustration and anger beat out altruism in the real world.
We may be Americas Friendly town but outside are borders....?

Were you living here when the tornado hit in 2007? If you were, you will remember a community truly coming together. The Red Cross served three hot meals a day. FEMA was here. All the major insurance companies were here in a matter of hours, set up to write out big checks immediately. Governor Charlie Crist spent five days here pledging all the state help we needed. More residents opened up their homes to evacuees than were needed. I could go on and on, but you get the gist.

If these services had not been able to get through, the state would have been in bigger trouble than imaginable, and nobody would be able to go anywhere. In a case like that, as we used to say in the airline industry, bend over and kiss your behind good-bye.

[Patty55]

I don't know how many disasters all the preppers on here have been through but I'm thinking they are taking that television show a wee bit too seriously.
You all do know it's a "reality show" ie entertainment, not a blueprint for life.

I've never seen the show or read the manuals, just been there and done it. (Until recently I thought a "prepper" was somebody who wore a lot of Ralph Lauren and tassel loafers.)

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Lauren Sweeny

Why leave TV ? Here are my reasons. First my heart would go out to all the unprepared persons,the sick, handicapped , elderly in-firmed etc.These folks would be looking for someone or somewhere to get help and resources in any type if emergency or disaster situation.
Considering the emergency is long term , ( meaning reality ) these people will be relying on government, FEMA and the Red Cross to come help. We saw what happened during Katrina and in Sandy. Here in TV we would hope and expect our friends and neighbors to pitch in to help BUT only so much goes so far .....what then ? Chaos,hunger death, remember Katrina?
Better to take care of yourself and immediate family needs and get to a a more private/ secure place where your group can maintain a bit of control of your people,supplies and resources.
It is inevitable ( probable) that in the near future ; some biological ( either by act of nature or intended dispersal) pandemic will effect the major population areas . The weather patterns have radically changed and data suggest will continue to do so for several years, It indicates weather pattern changes, higher tides, increased drought , severe lightening and hail,tornadoes,hurricanes all changing in strength and duration. Radiation from the sun has also gained more strength with pockets in our atmosphere showing up more frequently and stronger in intensity. ( burning up birds recently). I do not even want to go to EMP from sun or elsewhere,meteors off trajectory, Plum Island escapees,terrorists, ..get the sad picture. This is not something to dwell on but a fact of the age we live in ...this is going on outside our TV bubble folks! What will you do ....drink wine and laugh?
Do not coming looking for those of us who are prepared...Remember Esops fable about the ant and the grasshopper...so be it....I wish you all the best with you decisions!

The "natural" disasters such as increased draught, tornado, lightning, hurricanes, radiation from the sun, and pandemic would not be lessened for anyone who leaves their home in The Villages and camps out with a tent, MRE's, and a gun. We keep a few weeks of canned food and bottled water on hand - along with the mandatory few week supply of wine and cookies.

Hurricane Katrina demolished New Orleans as it is at sea level and Lake Ponchitrane flooded the city. We have nothing like that here. Hurricane Sandy flooded the coastal areas. We are not at the coast.

Go ahead and shoot your neighbors who want food; that is exactly what Jesus preached.

[jbdlfan]

I believe in always being prepared, so we are. But a bit of a note for those that believe it will be all Hakuna Matata around here, you might want to look at the ares a round you. If times became tight, you can bet your booty that we will have "neighbors" in here looking for goods. Heck, they already do.

[Sable99]

I worked in Washington, DC. After 911, we were advised to have a "Go To Bag" in our office that included water, batteries, masks, bandages, antiseptic wipes, non-perishable food, flashlights, etc. My boss and I always wondered who would get the one oxygen mask that we were given.

I also kept these supplies at home and a small generator for lights and to charge my cell phone. Oops, I forgot we were also advised to keep prescriptions readily available.

BTW after the towers were hit, I gathered with a group of about 90 people at someone's home. My cell phone was the only phone that worked that day!! Everyone used my phone to call home.

[Lauren Sweeny]

Government and agencies such as FEMA and Red Cross ,insurance companies etc, work fine when a situation is more or less localized. The big BUT is is a situation is multiple,across the US . If many cities are affected or all coasts are swamped or a plague like epidemic occurs the fair m

[Lauren Sweeny]

Sorry hit wrong key.....the bottom line is do not expect someone or some agency to take care of things.Staying informed , have an evacuation plan,gathering emergency goods and knowing ( judging) the preparedness of the surrounding countryside ,road maps and spare cash or barter goods. This is standard procedure in every countries field manual.
Prayer are always needed anytime, anywhere.
The Creator gave us ; senses, emotions , humor and logic to use,do not waste these gifts.

[Sable99]

Originally Posted by Lauren Sweeny

Sorry hit wrong key.....the bottom line is do not expect someone or some agency to take care of things.Staying informed , have an evacuation plan,gathering emergency goods and knowing ( judging) the preparedness of the surrounding countryside ,road maps and spare cash or barter goods. This is standard procedure in every countries field manual.
Prayer are always needed anytime, anywhere.
The Creator gave us ; senses, emotions , humor and logic to use,do not waste these gifts.

I agree that you should be aware about what is going on around you. Don't panic or go overboard but be prepared with supplies and a possible evacuation plan. If an event should happen, you need to know if you should evacuate, where you should go or whether you need to "shelter in place".

I now live about 30 miles from Toledo, Ohio. A few weeks ago the Toledo area had a "water scare". All of our local stores were sold out of water in a few hours. If the news even mentioned it "might" snow when I lived in the DC area, all of the store shelves were emptied.