[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

If tariffs…then you can buy US made. That’s the plan right?

How long will it take for the US to switch to making the things that China makes? One year? 5 years?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by phylt

IMO much ado about not much.

I feel that many of these tariffs will be targeted, and not sweeping anti-China etc.

For sure, vehicles from China and probably Mexico would be targeted - as they should be.

We DO need to manufacture MUCH more in our domestic production, especially critical pharmaceutical etc.

Our country needs to be completely prepared and focus on OUR country. So many others have taken advantage of us over the years. Especially allowing Corps et al to run amok exporting jobs and enriching themselves despite endangering the country.

Myself, I'll wait and see what happens. The sky is NOT falling. IMO the clouds are opening and the sun will shine brighter.

I agree about the "critical pharmaceutical". And "Corporations enriching themselves."

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by rustyp

And greatly increase the price of goods to us. Then we will demand wage increases to keep even. Thus the inflation spiral will begin. When it comes it comes in on an express train.

That's why top economists are against the concept.

[eyc234]

Originally Posted by Cuervo

I understand your concern, but if we focus more on buying our own products unemployment will drop across the board and wages will rise. Today a person buys a product manufactured from a foreign country, that means one less American employee and that also means one less shopper to purchase whatever your employer is selling. Buying American products is a win, win, situation for everyone. Tariffs will end up with prices going up anyway and if you remember the last time we went down this road China retaliated and started importing soybeans from South America hurting U.S. farmers.

Without all wages going up how is anyone going to afford these no existent American made products. The last time the US hit China as stated and stopped buying Soybeans from the US the US government had to give farmer $18 billion to keep them from going under. That money was our tax money that should never have been needed to prop up farmers. On top of all this we would not have enough workers to fill half the new jobs that would come back to America.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Pondboy

So who do you blame for all the good sourced from overseas?

The people who just look at the cheap price vs. the quality and origin of the goods…..or the manufacturers who outsourced the goods because they didn’t want to pay a fair wage (and benefits) to the American workers…..or the US manufacturers who did not have smart and creative employees (due to a poor educational system) to develop new cutting “edge technology”to the market.

When was the last time you sought out goods made in American and knowingly paid more for them ?

Also, who do you think is paying all those tariffs? We are, the consumer.

Don’t blame China or the rest of the world, they are just filling a need.

We should blame the poor US public school system (keeping property taxes down for the benefit of large property owners). Also to blame is the US healthcare system controlled by insurance executives and NOT Medical Doctors.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

There are lots of things that people consume or purchase, that aren't made in the USA at all. And many of those things that ARE made in the USA, use components that are made in China.

Prices will be going up on just about everything other than LOCAL produce and meats. Why? Because trucks that deliver stuff to the supermarket are made with components that come from China.

In addition, the whole reason we all buy things from China instead of manufacturing here in the first place - is because no one here wants to work for the low wages needed to provide these products to us, for the same prices that we pay from Chinese imports. So we'll be looking at either a) a massive increase in prices for products newly-manufactured in the US to accommodate the pay, insurance, and other expenses involved in having American employees, or b) a massive drop in pay and massive increase in people who can no longer pay their bills.

It's just so myopic to assume that we'll be fine if we just buy from US manufacturers.

The US has an edge in robotics and A.I. For labor, machines have advantages over human labor. Examples would be no sick leave, no health care costs, no transportation to work, and no personality friction.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz

US doesn’t manufacture most things we bring in from China.

You forgot to add "anymore"...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz

Oh it’s not just the tariffs that will raise prices, wait until there are no migrant workers to pick all the fresh fruit and vegetables in the fields. Who will pick them? Americans won’t do the job. Wait for your hand picked tomato costs $10 each, IF you can even get any because they have rotted in the fields unpicked.

Why will there no longer be "migrant workers"?

The US issues hundreds of thousands of migrant agricultural visas each and every year... No one has ever suggested that program should or will stop...

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

Tariffs and decreasing the corporate tax to 15% tax on corporations in the US is a great thing for American manufacturing jobs . John Deere was going to move manufacturing to Mexico but now are staying here in the USA . Prices will come down on products manufactured in the US due to the lower tax .

That's probably true, but US executives may keep a lot of that tax money. And the US government will get less tax REVENUE. So the national debt MAY (?) go up and/or government agencies that provide help and support for middle class citizens may go away. Or both things may happen ?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Wondering

Any legitimate economist or financial specialist has stated that tariff's only hurt consumers. Shows you how dumb the person who is pushing for them is in reality. I would be more concerned about the potential increase in produce, meats and dairy when there will be no immigrants to do the work!

Immigrants keep the cost of labor DOWN for the BIG employers and raise up the costs of education, rents, road traffic, and hospital costs. The US needs to determine its most efficient population.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Joe C.

Most of the manufacturing facilities in China are owned or partially owned and totally controlled and regulated by the Chinese government which is known as the Chinese Communist Party. The CCP employs slave labor, and much of the profit from all these factories is garnished by the military. That is why China now has the worlds largest Navy, and is building warships faster than any country in the world. Their ultimate goal is domination and control worldwide. They love American greed. The "what's in it for me?" attitude that permeates the masses. In the long run, if left unchecked, it will be our downfall.
Buy American when possible. If not, buy Mexican (it employs the Mexicans, and helps keep them south of the border). Otherwise if possible support any country that is an ally of the U.S.

We should start many factories in all the South American countries in order to keep those population from traveling north.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

We should start many factories in all the South American countries in order to keep those population from traveling north.

How's that working after all the factories we started in Mexico?

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Immigrants keep the cost of labor DOWN for the BIG employers and raise up the costs of education, rents, road traffic, and hospital costs. The US needs to determine its most efficient population.

As I understand it, the Florida minimum wage is $13 per hour plus the FICA taxes of about 7 percent, so a migrant worker makes about $30K per year. Also, the employer must offer affordable health insurance for the worker as per the ACA law. Are you suggesting that employers are not compling with these requirements?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

How long will it take for the US to switch to making the things that China makes? One year? 5 years?

My point exactly………too long .

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by TheWarriors

Ye, let’s import everything and put everyone out of a job! Funny, maybe tariffs are a way of bringing back some jobs to our Country and having Americans actually pay a little more to have less people on the unemployment line. If you’re not for helping fellow Americans, maybe our way of life doesn’t mean much to you. Just because I can get away with a little theft doesn’t mean I should.

The US is practically at full employment. We are the envy of the whole world. If we invested more money in public primary and secondary schools, we would all have higher salaries and benefits.