[Direwolf]

Originally Posted by Maker

Maybe you should move to a swamp. You wold see lots of alligators. Then the rest of us can make our homes safer here for us, our family, and visitors.
Nobody expects to step onto their porch and have an alligator hiding there. It never happened to him before, and listening to your excuses, he was stupid, foolish, and should have known better. Hogwash. That's the exact type of way accidents happen - when a combination of conditions come together exactly right... dark, location, timing, something unexpected, past history, alertness, distractions.

We cannot do anything other than remove the gators here that would be as effective preventing an attack or killing.

I have yet to hear an articulated reason why it is SAFER to leave alligators as is, instead of removing them (here, in TV). State the reason why removing them would be less safe. How leaving them reduces the possibility of an attack. Oh, you can't; that's why.

Removing them reduces, or eliminates, the risk of an attack. No matter what actions a person, child, pet, or uneducated visitor takes. That is what humans do - make things safer for everyone's greater good.
It's wonderful that you are a brilliant person that has never had any accidents happen throughout your life. Not all are as fortunate. If you did have an accident, perhaps in a car, or with a saw, or a knife, or a broken bone... wouldn't it be better if something was done before that happened to completely prevent it?

Just discuss ALLIGATORS. Not interested in deflections to bugs, cars, dogs, etc. Not my "fears" lol or needs. Not blaming "stupid" people. Not telling people to move. Not fires, ladders, or <<anything>> else.

Actually, you moved to a swamp. Did you do your research before moving?
Over 31 percent of Florida is wetlands. Ninety percent of those wetlands are freshwater (over 18,500 square miles), with only 10 percent being saltwater marshes and mangroves (approximately 2,000 square miles)

[Direwolf]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You do realize that TV is FULL of wetland, lakes etc, that are chuck full of alligators, don't you?

We could remove every last one in TV and they would be back in a matter of months.

you are so right.
"In fact, swamps can be found in almost every area of Florida. This is due to the state's high water table, substantial rainfall and majorly flat landscape." Swamp Life: Learning the Florida Swamp Ecosystem

[Normal]

I recall Larry the alligator being removed some time ago from the Villages. The Villages seems to do a pretty good job with larger alligator removal.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

If you were legally responsible for an alligator attack in the Villages, would you keep them here? Or would you remove them?

No one has answered this question. If you owned the place, would you keep them here?

Although I think the Disney settlement was kept secret, there are reports that it settled for $10,000,000.

Did Lane Graves' (Boy Killed by Alligator) Family Settle with Disney?

If the Villages gets hit with a $10,000,000 verdict, I would think that the amenity fees would go up. Is anyone willing to pay higher amenity fees for the alligator amenity?

[Maker]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

Hey, the gators were here first.

Sorry, but that is wrong. Saying it over and over does not make it true.
There were many flat fields here with no alligators. Then big holes were dug. Rubber linings were added. Water collection pipes were placed to fill that hole with drainage. All that was done by humans, yet there were no alligators there first.
As time moved on, an alligator from elsewhere wandered into those retention ponds.
People were there first, not alligators.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Normal

I recall Larry the alligator being removed some time ago from the Villages. The Villages seems to do a pretty good job with larger alligator removal.

I remember that too. Sad day for me. I enjoyed the occasional view we would get of that magnificent animal.

[Maker]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I posted the stats... Ridiculously rare...

Living in fear of any threat that can be mitigated is just stupid.

[Maker]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You do realize that TV is FULL of wetland, lakes etc, that are chuck full of alligators, don't you?

We could remove every last one in TV and they would be back in a matter of months.

Great idea - remove every one. Get started now. We don't care how many there are, or how long it takes. Even if it's a continuous effort.
Humans deserve a safer environment.

[Maker]

Originally Posted by spinner1001

No one can possibly eliminate pythons from large areas of Florida.
No one can possibly eliminate alligators from large areas of Florida.
Nature wins over the humans here.
The state government will not allow all alligators to be removed from large areas of Florida.
QED.

Gators and pythons are here to stay. Saying anything to the contrary is beer talk.

Talk about pythons is off topic. This is about alligators.
The Villages is not a "large area" of Florida. Removing ever alligator here would not make any dent in the overall population. The state politicians would be happy to make 150000 voters here happy.
QED with real logic.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Maker

Living in fear of any threat that can be mitigated is just stupid.

With a universe full of danger to focus on, alligators, one of the things least likely to impact you, seems extremely irrational. I recommend talking with a psychologist to help with this phobia. If that fails, you could try anxiety meds, alcohol or pot. If none of that works, then you should move because, 1 the world doesn't revolve around you, and 2 even if they tried to kill them all, how could you ever be certain that they didn't miss the one that has your name and address.

[Maker]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

With a universe full of danger to focus on, alligators, one of the things least likely to impact you, seems extremely irrational. I recommend talking with a psychologist to help with this phobia. If that fails, you could try anxiety meds, alcohol or pot. If none of that works, then you should move because, 1 the world doesn't revolve around you, and 2 even if they tried to kill them all, how could you ever be certain that they didn't miss the one that has your name and address.

Maybe you should talk to the family of the 85y that was killed by an alligator. They would love to hear your suggestions.
Getting rid of 99.999% of them here would make it a lot safer. That's better than doing nothing.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Maker

Sorry, but that is wrong. Saying it over and over does not make it true.
There were many flat fields here with no alligators. Then big holes were dug. Rubber linings were added. Water collection pipes were placed to fill that hole with drainage. All that was done by humans, yet there were no alligators there first.
As time moved on, an alligator from elsewhere wandered into those retention ponds.
People were there first, not alligators.

Watch one of GoldWing Nut's videos... You'll see how wrong you are...

There are wetlands EVERYWHERE throughout TV...

They are on many of the golf courses (Evan's Prairie and Belle Glade seem to have the most...). They are over by Lake Sumter... They are west of Buena Vista... Between Hillsborough and 44 is a HUGE area of wetlands...

Those are just the ones I can name off the top of my head...

And they are ALL OVER the place south of 44...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

No one has answered this question. If you owned the place, would you keep them here?

Although I think the Disney settlement was kept secret, there are reports that it settled for $10,000,000.

Did Lane Graves' (Boy Killed by Alligator) Family Settle with Disney?

If the Villages gets hit with a $10,000,000 verdict, I would think that the amenity fees would go up. Is anyone willing to pay higher amenity fees for the alligator amenity?

Originally Posted by Maker

Maybe you should talk to the family of the 85y that was killed by an alligator. They would love to hear your suggestions.
Getting rid of 99.999% of them here would make it a lot safer. That's better than doing nothing.

Emotional Straw Man arguments...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Maker

Sorry, but that is wrong. Saying it over and over does not make it true.
There were many flat fields here with no alligators. Then big holes were dug. Rubber linings were added. Water collection pipes were placed to fill that hole with drainage. All that was done by humans, yet there were no alligators there first.
As time moved on, an alligator from elsewhere wandered into those retention ponds.
People were there first, not alligators.

Those "big holes" that were dug help water your lawn and keep your house from flooding...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Maker

Living in fear of any threat that can be mitigated is just stupid.

They are mitigated. Don't walk by the ponds and you'll be safe...