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Great idea - remove every one. Get started now. We don't care how many there are, or how long it takes. Even if it's a continuous effort.
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Talk about pythons is off topic. This is about alligators.
The Villages is not a "large area" of Florida. Removing ever alligator here would not make any dent in the overall population. The state politicians would be happy to make 150000 voters here happy.
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150000 voters don't want the alligators removed...
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150000 voters don't want the alligators removed...
But many of us do. You did see the gator attack in Daytona Beach on Friday night on a man's front porch? All the man did was open the door in response to the noise at the door. Good reason for video cameras, but a front porch should be a safe place.
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But many of us do. You did see the gator attack in Daytona Beach on Friday night on a man's front porch? All the man did was open the door in response to the noise at the door. Good reason for video cameras, but a front porch should be a safe place.
Mine front porch is safe.

Safety tip: Don't open your front door for a noise without first looking to see what the noise was. Yes, it could be your child's friend. On the other hand, it could be an individual too intoxicated to recognize they are at the wrong door. Or, it could be someone trying to break into your house. Or, it could be some deranged individual with a gun. Or, and much less likely, it could be an alligator. Best thing to do: don't open your front door for a noise without first looking to see what the noise was.
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The bottom line is that gators are here to stay. Nobody is going to spend the money to remove them even if it was a legitimate problem. If the fear of living among them is so great you have to make your own decision on whether to remain here with them or not.
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But many of us do. You did see the gator attack in Daytona Beach on Friday night on a man's front porch? All the man did was open the door in response to the noise at the door. Good reason for video cameras, but a front porch should be a safe place.
"A safe place"...

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Watch: Florida gator tears through metal fence with alarming ease
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Alligators are sunning themselves at your front door by swimming through the pipes?????

How many alligators have you seen at your front door?

Given your (and other's) concerns, perhaps that master planned community in South Florida is a better fit for you?
Wasn't there a photo on this thread that showed an alligator at someone's front door? That was here in The Villages. My sister, who lives in Caroline had a small alligator waiting for her right outside her lanai door when she went to walk her dog. Thank goodness, I haven't had a greeting from an alligator at our home. We don't have any water close to our home though.
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Maybe you should move to a swamp. You wold see lots of alligators. Then the rest of us can make our homes safer here for us, our family, and visitors.
Nobody expects to step onto their porch and have an alligator hiding there. It never happened to him before, and listening to your excuses, he was stupid, foolish, and should have known better. Hogwash. That's the exact type of way accidents happen - when a combination of conditions come together exactly right... dark, location, timing, something unexpected, past history, alertness, distractions.

We cannot do anything other than remove the gators here that would be as effective preventing an attack or killing.

I have yet to hear an articulated reason why it is SAFER to leave alligators as is, instead of removing them (here, in TV). State the reason why removing them would be less safe. How leaving them reduces the possibility of an attack. Oh, you can't; that's why.

Removing them reduces, or eliminates, the risk of an attack. No matter what actions a person, child, pet, or uneducated visitor takes. That is what humans do - make things safer for everyone's greater good.
It's wonderful that you are a brilliant person that has never had any accidents happen throughout your life. Not all are as fortunate. If you did have an accident, perhaps in a car, or with a saw, or a knife, or a broken bone... wouldn't it be better if something was done before that happened to completely prevent it?

Just discuss ALLIGATORS. Not interested in deflections to bugs, cars, dogs, etc. Not my "fears" lol or needs. Not blaming "stupid" people. Not telling people to move. Not fires, ladders, or <<anything>> else.
That master planned community certainly was a safer environment, no doubt about that.
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"A safe place"...

Hang this on your door... It'll help just as much as trying to remove nature...

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LOL! Love the sign. What folks need to understand is this, there is no such thing as a SAFE PLACE. Alligators, diseases, accidents just waiting to happen, in or away from your home, dangers everywhere you turn. People, young and old are dieing every second of every day. One person, tragically, was killed by a gator and people lose their flipping minds and think "OH MY GAWD, alligator apocalypse! KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL! " Makes you want to slap them and get them out of their hysteria. (Old school remedy for those freaking out and running amok.)
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Are they (gators) really that bad in Mallory?
I have yet to see an alligator as long as I have lived in Mallory. We aren't near any water so I guess that helps.
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I have yet to see an alligator as long as I have lived in Mallory. We aren't near any water so I guess that helps.
If you play golf, it is almost impossible not to see them or hear them.
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Wasn't there a photo on this thread that showed an alligator at someone's front door? That was here in The Villages. My sister, who lives in Caroline had a small alligator waiting for her right outside her lanai door when she went to walk her dog. Thank goodness, I haven't had a greeting from an alligator at our home. We don't have any water close to our home though.
We have a pool. Even though it is in a birdcage, I always look before I leap. Not only for gators. Snakes and other things could be in there that you might not enjoy. Even at home, be aware of your surroundings.
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If you play golf, it is almost impossible not to see them or hear them.
Never have played golf.
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Default Villagers Benefit From Alligators

While alligators were certainly here first (last 150 million to 200 million years till present), they are still needed by all of us. Ask any Community Watch professional here in the Villages and they will tell you of the surplus of species we have that alligators consume. Raccoons, rats and large snakes would dominate our landscape without them. Only a certified nut job would eradicate something that important to our ecosystem. Alligators are much easier to see and control than a population boom of varments and snakes!
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