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What's amazing is that the defense, of course, had seen all of the jail videos that were shown today, well in advance of the trial, and knew that the jury would see them too, and they obviously nevertheless have a plan to offer Casey's drowning/sexual abuse scenario into evidence. I cannot imagine any way other than through Casey testifying that this could come in; it would have to be from someone who witnessed these things, and presumably she is the only one other than George (who has already denied both).
Unless she just throws in the towel, I can't think of anything that Casey could say other than, I assume(??!!), that she and her dad couldn't talk about the 'real' truth (the drowning) in front of Cindy, plus they knew that the jailhouse conversations would become evidence, and so that she and her dad were still 'playacting ' to bolster their concocted account that the nanny had abducted Caylee. ( I did not believe that alot of George's trial testimony was credible, but his demeanor on the jail videotapes certainly makes him seem totally noncomplicit; if he was 'acting' he sure convinced me). Casey will probably also have to say that that is why she chose George for the one visitor she was allowed to see 'off the record', ie, so that they could talk in confidence about what had 'really' happened. I think if/when she says this at trial it will be amazing to watch. Unfortunately for her, she has gotten herself into a place, as much as she has undeniably lied about all sorts of things, that I doubt anything she will testify to would be believed (even if some of it is the truth). But - if other evidence might in some way support her testimony, she still has a chance. What the jail videotapes did do for Casey is show that both of her parents, and apparently many other people according to what the parents were telling Casey, found Casey loveable, and thought she was a great mother. After seeing some of this morning's jail videotapes, I still have doubt that Casey intentionally murdered Caylee, although it's certainly possible, because she apparently is at least somewhat crazy and is a diabolical liar (how else could she bear to put her mother - and father, if he actually was noncomplicit, as he claims - through the torment that she did in those jail conversations, pulling every heartstring and guilt trip she could to make them work harder to get her out of jail on bail, and professing over and over how she could just 'feel in her heart' that Caylee was nearby and would be found soon, knowing all along that Caylee was dead) and I don't know much about the subject of craziness. But I'm thinking it's still more probable that Casey - because she seems to at least think (narcissisticly? - is this the correct term that I'm searching for here?) - that she is very smart, and probably she is to some degree, because her family and friends had bought her lies about her job and nanny, etc., for years; and so she probably thought she could outsmart the system - made up an outrageous web of lies, which is now backfiring on her, trying to get out of responsibility for having in some way, probably by oversedating her, accidently killed Caylee. If that's the case, the huge web of lies to cover that up do not turn it into murder 1, but a lesser murder conviction or a manslaughter conviction would be appropriate.
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Here's a helpful tool
In order to understand Casey (and OJ as well) you should read "The Sociopath Next Door" by Harvard Professor and psycotherapist Martha Stout. One in 25 people are sociopaths. It may well change the way you think about behavior. You can order it from Amazon.com.
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OK the defense has convinced me that Casey is innocent and she should be allowed to get right up from her chair and walk right out of that courtroom
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What is your opinion of Baez?
I know his job is to give Casey "due process"...BUT I've got to tell you, his technique for cross-examining makes me NUTS!....Most of the witnesses, I find credible....Why did he find it necessary to dig in the FBI witnesses past in 2000 and tell the jury that she failed some stupid test...Sure wish someone could ask him HOW MANY TIMES HE HAD TO RETAKE HIS BOARDS!
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This is someone's opinion that I read on Facebook and it could be a possibility'
"Okay, I've been watching this sad case about the little girl in Florida. Here's what I think: I think she accidentally drowned but, the mom was so narsicistic and didn't want anyone to think she let it happen so she tried to cover it up. i do think she's a pathelogical liar and I think she is surprised that her family won't go along with the web of lies she started." I haven't been watching the trial closely...just the cliff-notes version during the news. It's enough for me as it's a nauseating situation at best, to think about. I cannot imagine a mother doing that then lying about it PLUS the fact she could go for over a month (and beyond) "acting" as though nothing is wrong. It's just beyond me!!!!! |
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I've not only been following this on TV but on Tony Pipitone's blog. He puts out a lot of good information. He seems to be the only reporter without bias either way. (One poster on the blog pointed this out by saying that a reporter on one of the other channels had basically already called her guilty.) One thing he brought out is that in Florida, homicide is not always murder. That surprised me because I thought that that was just another word for murder. Apparently not so. Another thing he cleared up was the information put out there that it took Baez 8 tries to pass the bar. Not true. He had background issues which had to be resolved which were not very pretty. That is what kept him from getting his license for a long time. A couple of the issues had to do with deliquent child support and bad checks. That was just two mentioned but that there were others as well. He also pointed out that an attorney cannot "dump" a client just because that attorney finds out the client is guilty. They still have to provide a defense. Dunno and kinda fuzzy as to how that works. What I don't understand is why he didn't just convince her to plead out to a lesser charge concerning accidental death a long time ago unless there really is something else. Someone else (on here, I think) mentioned the lip reader's saying something about Casey telling one of the attorneys that her mother was lying in her testimony to protect George. (Not an exact quote, but that was the gist of the post.) Found it...see Freeda's post, it's #65 on here. Regardless of how this child died, I do think Casey is at the very core of it. That being said, I think her whole family shares some portion of the why in some way.
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I think you're right, Bare. So sad. So very unusual to see someone without remorse over the death of their child.
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Is this going to be another surprise "O.J. verdict" ?
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It very well could be
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I know that it is the defenses job
to discredit all state witnesses but hasn't Baez stepped over the line!
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Help Me Out Here
When Dr. Vass testified (all day!) today, why was he allowed to go on and on and on everytime he opened his mouth? Why was he not admonished to just answer the questions asked instead of all the rambling he did? Other witnesses have been very restricted in this respect. Baez did try to rein him in a couple of times by telling him to just answer "yes" or "no". Even then, he persisted. In his cross, Baez did score a point or two toward creating some doubt.
I also did not understand why he was not admonished for the extraneous remarks and laughing about "almost jumping backwards" when asked about the smell when he opened the can. By not just saying that there was an overwhelming smell of what he knows or recognizes as human decomposition, it came across as very prejudicial antics. Also by being so deeply technical, he could well have cost the prosecution some points just by wearing out the jury. Jumping ahead, wouldn't it be more prudent for the state to take the death penalty off the table since it will be an automatic appeal? That is already a given. Right now, the prosecution are working their tails off to ward off an appeal and the defense are working theirs off building grounds for one. With appeals, this could go on forever.
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Lubbock, TX Bamberg, Germany Lawton, OK Amarillo, TX The Villages, FL To quote my dad: "I never did see a board that didn't have two sides." |
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The interesting part will be to see if the Defence changes their story. I never thought I'd feel sorry for Casey's parents, but I do. I think that Casey has made up lie after lie to save her skin and thrown her dad under the bus in the process. Unbelievable. I still think that Casey is a demented woman and her daughter was just the sweetest little girl. It breaks my heart everytime I see her pictures, but I can't stop watching.
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