[Arctic Fox]

Well-thought-out tariff policy helping USA domestic production - not!

Airbus laughing all the way to the bank.

[opinionist]

Boeing has already made a fool of itself with doors falling off planes.
Sourcing products from China was just another dumb move.

[DrMack]

Originally Posted by opinionist

Boeing has already made a fool of itself with doors falling off planes.
Sourcing products from China was just another dumb move.

I agree. It’s time to say good riddance to all the Chinese junk. I wouldn’t care if they closed every “dollar” store from here to Shanghai. None of us would care if China would stop exporting global pandemics.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by opinionist

Boeing has already made a fool of itself with doors falling off planes.
Sourcing products from China was just another dumb move.

Originally Posted by DrMack

I agree. It’s time to say good riddance to all the Chinese junk. I wouldn’t care if they closed every “dollar” store from here to Shanghai. None of us would care if China would stop exporting global pandemics.

You probably should have taken a minute to understand the issue before making such comments.

This isn't about Boeing being unable to manufacture planes. This is about Boeing, an American manufacturer, losing the sale of 180 planes to China over two years. At about 500 planes per year, this represents nearly 20% loss in sales.

[Normal]

All the while, Boeing just landed a huge contract for the new F47 fighter jet and the multi billion dollar C 17 sustainability contract. They will need more workers to keep up.

[EastCoastDawg]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You probably should have taken a minute to understand the issue before making such comments. This isn't about Boeing being unable to manufacture planes. This is about Boeing, an American manufacturer, losing the sale of 180 planes to China over two years. At about 500 planes per year, this represents nearly 20% loss in sales.

Indeed. Jingoism v Realism. Like (still) thinking that China will just roll over rather than retaliate.

[BillyGrown]

Originally Posted by Normal

All the while, Boeing just landed a huge contract for the new F47 fighter jet and the multi billion dollar C 17 sustainability contract. They will need more workers to keep up.

Oh boy, more defense spending

[bopat]

This backfires on China. Boeing’s backlog is years long, so undelivered planes could find other buyers, albeit with delays in remarketing. China’s airlines, meanwhile, might struggle with older fleets or turn to Airbus, which is also stretched thin. If parts are embargoed, China risks grounding its Boeing-heavy fleets, which could cripple domestic operations.

[bopat]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

"BIG NOTE: This is week one of the trade war with China and these planes were scheduled to be delivered over the next two years. A lot can change in that time.

FTFY: "KEY POINT: This marks week one of the U.S. finally responding to China's ongoing trade war, with Boeing deliveries scheduled over the next two years. Much could shift in that timeframe."

China started muscling in on U.S. manufacturing back in the ‘80s, waving cheap labor like a carrot to snatch American factories. Come the ‘90s, with trade deals greased and China crashing the WTO in 2000, they hit the gas—sucking up jobs and swiping our tech through slick business deals. A million U.S. factory jobs got wiped out by 2007 while China’s plants churned. That’s when they dug their claws in, and we’re still feeling the sting.

[Ralph Cramdon]

It’s fascinating how often people blame China for the loss of U.S. jobs, rather than the companies that chose to move operations there in pursuit of higher profits.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bopat

FTFY: "KEY POINT: This marks week one of the U.S. finally responding to China's ongoing trade war, with Boeing deliveries scheduled over the next two years. Much could shift in that timeframe."

China started muscling in on U.S. manufacturing back in the ‘80s, waving cheap labor like a carrot to snatch American factories. Come the ‘90s, with trade deals greased and China crashing the WTO in 2000, they hit the gas—sucking up jobs and swiping our tech through slick business deals. A million U.S. factory jobs got wiped out by 2007 while China’s plants churned. That’s when they dug their claws in, and we’re still feeling the sting.

Buyer's remorse; looking for someone to blame rather than taking responsibility for our own actions.

"Muscling in" could explain why US manufacturing exports decreased but it doesn't explain an increase in imports. US manufacturing moved to increase profits. American customers encouraged this by voting with their wallets. Everyone was a winner until "we" decided we didn't like the current situation and needed someone to blame.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by DrMack

I agree. It’s time to say good riddance to all the Chinese junk. I wouldn’t care if they closed every “dollar” store from here to Shanghai. None of us would care if China would stop exporting global pandemics.

Problem is that if and when US stops buying Chinese made products stores like Walmart can take over the spaces left by Dollar Store Dollar General Just bought a new thermometer for my American made Weber grill. Two choice a Weber branded thermometer and a non branded thermometer, both made in (guess where)

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by Normal

All the while, Boeing just landed a huge contract for the new F47 fighter jet and the multi billion dollar C 17 sustainability contract. They will need more workers to keep up.

And who is paying for the f 47s? In meantime Airbus will get more biz.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by BillyGrown

Oh boy, more defense spending

Bigger budget deficit and more out of control national debt : (

[biker1]

Both companies have large backlogs of single aisle planes. It’s not as if Airbus has planes in stock ready to ship or Boeing doesn’t have other customers who will be moved up in the queue.

The F-47 is a long term project paid for by the DoD.

Originally Posted by kkingston57

And who is paying for the f 47s? In meantime Airbus will get more biz.