[Villages PL]

I understand they landed very close to where our guys put up an American flag. When they got out to examine it, there was a tag that read, "Made in China"

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by billethkid

A significant feat in and of itself. In addition to the soft landing it also deployed a land rover that will travel the moon for 3 months. Another significant feat all by itself.

The accomplishments further underline China's commitment to advancing technology.

As we can all REMEMBER there was very much technology transfered from the conquests in space to industry and we the people.

The rest of the world will have recieved China's message on capability in space.
This accomplishment should/could be looked at as another form of the Sputnik accomplishment of the past.

The USA could once again wind up or already is behind.

We the people need to encourage our representatives to have another JFK moment to lay out the future of our space program, for our future generations. The return on investment is substantial for private, corporate and essential for military capability.

Nothing political intended. The above is offered in the same spirit as discussing whether golf cart a bridge should be put over a highway.
Nothing more.

btk

Unfortunately, this is yet more evidence of China's rising ascendancy contrasted to American decline ... most of the latter self-imposed by a rotting pop culture and feckless leadership. Sad actually.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by TexaninVA

Unfortunately, this is yet more evidence of China's rising ascendancy contrasted to American decline ... most of the latter self-imposed by a rotting pop culture and feckless leadership. Sad actually.

Obviously, I agree.

What, to me anyway, is as serious, is the noticeable lack of acceptance of this fact, and the acceptance of what is happening.

We seem to endorse and accept the breakdowns within our society, and in many cases defend it.

Chanting USA and bravado language is not sufficient to save my country.

[mrfixit]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

Are they buying real estate?

...not ON the Moon.....BUT..

Yes....partly with the $100 Million Dollars PER DAY in Interest our government has to pay to the Chinese....
..............for the $ Trillion Plus we have borrowed from the Chinese.

10 % of ALL homes Sold in California in 2011 were sold to Chinese Citizens.

FIFTY Square Miles of land South of Boise, Idaho , "quietly" snapped up.
( think about that....access to the Snake River Plain Aquafier.)

They have plans for at least 12 more similar sites throughout the USA for
planned multi-use Communities...homes...factories...etc to be located here.

MUCH land near and at The Port of Toledo Ohio...and other lands along The
Maumee River.....(easy to move our grain out from there)

200 acres near Milan, Michigan for housing Chinese Execs and families....
...hmmm....wonder why.....

The Chinese have purchased ....33% of the OIL Rights in the Southwest and MidWest of the USA ...from SEVERAL small to medium size Oil Companies....
....ON MORE THAN 3 MILLION ACRES....and that is only the beginning of their quest to acquire oil rights here.

How about the WORLDS LARGEST Hog and Pork Provider...
...the Smithfield Foods USA Inc. was purchased by the Chinese in Sept. 2013........for 4.7 BILLION in Cash.

China Ocean Shipping... has purchased lots of land at and near SEVERAL
PORTS on our East Coast and Gulf Coast.

HUGE tracts of land at BOTH ends of The Panama Canal.

AND JUST THIS PAST WEEK.....Chinese Businessman Wang Jing has acquired
the exclusive rights to build A NEW INTER-OCEAN Canal through...
Nicaragua...This should take about HALF of all shipping away from the Panama Canal.

Snapping up land at and surronding and near our MAJOR Int' Airports.

The above does not worry me...
...what scares the heck out of me......is that China has acquired
the rights to 95% of the Rare Earth Elements WORLDWIDE.
The production AND refining is controlled by them

...how will we do any high-tech, guided missiles, laser, communications, or moon landings), I-phones, smart TVs,
touch screens.....etc.etc.etc. without BUYING Rare Earth Elements ( minerals.).. FROM the Chinese.

[Djembe dude]

They will probably put a huge MADE IN CHINA billboard on it.

[Golfingnut]

Improvements in anything thru science is a good thing. It is time for wealthy nations like China to step up and invest in the future of the earth. Some day with research and working for the same goals it will no longer be them and us. I hope for that no matter what language it comes in.

Yea China.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Improvements in anything thru science is a good thing. It is time for wealthy nations like China to step up and invest in the future of the earth. Some day with research and working for the same goals it will no longer be them and us. I hope for that no matter what language it comes in.

Yea China.

I m not sure what this post means, nor do I think the full understanding of how this country is falling further and further behind the world has sunk in.

This from my earlier post in this thread...

"A particularly alarming report on working-age adults was published earlier this month by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a coalition of mainly developed nations. The research focused on people ages 16 to 65 in 24 countries. It dealt with three crucial areas: literacy — the ability to understand and respond to written material; numeracy — the ability to use numerical and mathematical concepts; and problem solving — the ability to interpret and analyze information using computers. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/23/op...ng-behind.html

China is taking us over and quickly. We borrow money from them in order to pay them for manufacturing good for us. We now root for them to take away any tech advantage we ever had by scrapping NASA and just not caring anymore. We continue to go even deeper in debt and seem to have completely lost sight of the big picture. I keep referring to our society as one that feels it should "get a trophy for just showing up"....unrealistic for sure. We argue over things and forget not only are our children falling behind but as the above report shows, the adults are doing the same and meanwhile we entertain ourselves with such trite "problems".

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I m not sure what this post means, nor do I think the full understanding of how this country is falling further and further behind the world has sunk in.

This from my earlier post in this thread...

"A particularly alarming report on working-age adults was published earlier this month by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a coalition of mainly developed nations. The research focused on people ages 16 to 65 in 24 countries. It dealt with three crucial areas: literacy — the ability to understand and respond to written material; numeracy — the ability to use numerical and mathematical concepts; and problem solving — the ability to interpret and analyze information using computers. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/23/op...ng-behind.html

China is taking us over and quickly. We borrow money from them in order to pay them for manufacturing good for us. We now root for them to take away any tech advantage we ever had by scrapping NASA and just not caring anymore. We continue to go even deeper in debt and seem to have completely lost sight of the big picture. I keep referring to our society as one that feels it should "get a trophy for just showing up"....unrealistic for sure. We argue over things and forget not only are our children falling behind but as the above report shows, the adults are doing the same and meanwhile we entertain ourselves with such trite "problems".

You seem to dislike our Asian brothers and sisters. Sorry.

[Villages PL]

I find it alarming that China is moving ahead so fast, technologically. We need to do something fast, like get some leadership.

Otherwise, the next time the U.S. goes to the moon, our Astronauts won't have to pack a lunch, they will find a Chinese restaurant there.

[Golfingnut]

I love General Tsu Chicken.

[Bucco]

Lest everyone think we are not the subject of some intense...."investigation"...."study" by China..suggest some reading..

China Military Technology Trafficking From US - Business Insider

Title....."How China's Weapons Technology Snatchers are Penerating US Defenses."

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

It is time for wealthy nations like China to step up and invest in the future of the earth. One can hope but by demonstrated history through to and including current times China has ONLY one priority...CHINA!

Some day with research and working for the same goals it will no longer be them and us. China has continually demonstrated the preference for them and us throughout history and that is not likely to change.

Yea China. = nothing but generating heat!!

The red are what I believe to be the outlook most Americans have regarding China.

[JP]

Very soon we will have private companies that will be landing on the moon. That's more impressive.

[gamby]

They plan on opening a Walmart there soon.

[Golfingnut]

It is time for wealthy nations like China to step up and invest in the future of the earth. One can hope but by demonstrated history through to and including current times China has ONLY one priority...CHINA!

Some day with research and working for the same goals it will no longer be them and us. China has continually demonstrated the preference for them and us throughout history and that is not likely to change.

Yea China. = nothing but generating heat!!

The red are what I believe to be the outlook most Americans have regarding China.

Para 1. I agree with you, and wish we would show more priority to the USA.

Para 2. I will leave history to you and the rest of the experts.

Para 3. True, I could have left that out.

I appreciate a disagreement with a reason rather than an insult. Yea, BTK. Sorry about Para 3.

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