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Anyway, we’ll soon find out …maybe. Some of the findings could end up being classified, and for very good reasons.

In the meantime, here’s a discussion between the former American Defense Attaché, who served in Beijing, and American investor Kyle Bass. Brigadier General Spaulding (USAF-Ret) provides his insights on the Chinese in general and CCP in particular.

Is the US-China Trade War a Cold War? (w/ Kyle Bass and Gen. Robert Spalding) - YouTube

One example (at about the 13m mark) is how the CCP strives to control the narrative on topics related to China. That is, they try to control what we (i.e. Americans) are, in effect, “allowed” to think and say about China. They tend to play back our cultural expressions. It’s actually quite clever.

This provides insight into how a topic can become taboo and forbidden by contemporary PC rules. A good example is how the initial discussion of the Wuhan virus as being a product of Chinese biolabs was “forbidden” and quickly scorned by the prestige media as a “conspiracy theory” as already discussed.

The interview was conducted prior to the virus pandemic. I’d be interested people’s thoughtful observations and opinions on the issues the General raises.
You make some very good points, especially this one, to me: "Anyway, we’ll soon find out …maybe." Someday we may know the truth, but it won't necessarily be what we're told by the CCP.

I'll confess: I didn't watch the whole video, but caught the section you cited above. Very interesting stuff & scary, if completely true.
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Why on earth are you supporting China?

Because of their duplicity, 184 countries are fighting this killer. How can you possibly defend them?
Who on earth said I supported or defended China, for crying out loud??? That never even entered the discussion as far as I can recall. I think I have already explained that I put my faith in non-politically biased science, rather than politically slanted, one-sided, unsubstantiated opinions and rumors.
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Who on earth said I supported or defended China, for crying out loud??? That never even entered the discussion as far as I can recall. I think I have already explained that I put my faith in non-politically biased science, rather than politically slanted, one-sided, unsubstantiated opinions and rumors.
How can you pretend that you are not defending China? Every post that mentions their behavior gets defended by you with the “that’s just rumor” nonsense. Far more learned than I have supplied you with documentation of reports by far more learned than them. There are none so blind as they who will not see.

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How can you pretend that you are not defending China? Every post that mentions their behavior gets defended by you with the “that’s just rumor” nonsense. Far more learned than I have supplied you with documentation of reports by far more learned than them. There are none so blind as they who will not see.
That is just a completely bizarre interpretation of my posts. Show me ONE instance where I have even implied support or defense of China. Go ahead, I'll wait...

( "Jeopardy" theme song on endless loop...)

If the majority of experts, especially scientists, refute the possibility of leaks or bio-engineering, I'm going to believe them until better evidence is shown. This is NOT a case where the only choices are (a) believe the opinions and theories of the few, or (b) be a cheerleader for China. For crying out loud.
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How can you pretend that you are not defending China? Every post that mentions their behavior gets defended by you with the “that’s just rumor” nonsense. Far more learned than I have supplied you with documentation of reports by far more learned than them. There are none so blind as they who will not see.

This is a VERY telling video...

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That just about does it! I'm NEVER going to another Chinese funeral again. And I'm gonna peel the "Made in China" label off everything I buy from now on.
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Thanks for posting this.

One way or another China is responsible for this virus and they must be made to pay economically big time, by the whole world when this is under control.

Turning a blind eye to this evil regime, who want to control the world, is a big mistake!
This is an article from today’s NYT that explains how Chinese intelligence operatives spread messages to sow virus panic in the US.

Here’s the link: Chinese Agents Helped Spread Messages That Sowed Virus Panic in U.S., Officials Say - The New York Times

This is the first several paragraphs … the article itself is longer.

(My Takeaway this is simply more evidence that China, under the boot of the CCP, is an enemy of our country. They are at war with us but most Americans remains uninformed, more accurately clueless, about the true nature and aims of the CCP.)

WASHINGTON — The alarming messages came fast and furious in mid-March, popping up on the cellphone screens and social media feeds of millions of Americans grappling with the onset of the coronavirus pandemic.
Spread the word, the messages said: The Trump administration was about to lock down the entire country.
“They will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to help prevent looters and rioters,” warned one of the messages, which cited a source in the Department of Homeland Security. “He said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the call today with his dispatch orders.”
The messages became so widespread over 48 hours that the White House’s National Security Council issued an announcement via Twitter that they were “FAKE.”

Since that wave of panic, United States intelligence agencies have assessed that Chinese operatives helped push the messages across platforms, according to six American officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to publicly discuss intelligence matters. The amplification techniques are alarming to officials because the disinformation showed up as texts on many Americans’ cellphones, a tactic that several of the officials said they had not seen before.
That has spurred agencies to look at new ways in which China, Russia and other nations are using a range of platforms to spread disinformation during the pandemic, they said.

The origin of the messages remains murky. American officials declined to reveal details of the intelligence linking Chinese agents to the dissemination of the disinformation, citing the need to protect their sources and methods for monitoring Beijing’s activities.

The officials interviewed for this article work in six different agencies. They included both career civil servants and political appointees, and some have spent many years analyzing China. Their broader warnings about China’s spread of disinformation are supported by recent findings from outside bipartisan research groups, including the Alliance for Securing Democracy and the Center for a New American Security, which is expected to release a report on the topic next month.

(much more to the article)


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There are several articles available from medical sources that have already looked at this question. Their conclusions are that COVID19 mutated (or evolved) from animals into a form that infects humans. This isn't a selective virus. As a weapon, it makes about as much sense as using a grenade for home defense. That being said, I think the issue is what the Chinese Communist Party has done with the virus since it showed up. They have 'weaponized' it for their own political and economic gain, and to increase their influence in countries around the world. The Czech Republic, having lived for so many years under the Soviet's domination, is being smart. Spain not so much. Even some news outlets and politicians seem to be aligning themselves with the CCP's narrative. Some of the "loyal opposition" isn't looking all that loyal.
CNN, amongst other sources, reports that US intelligence is looking into the possibility that the Coronavirus (i.e., more accurately, the Wuhan virus, but I digress) originated in a Chinese bio lab.

To put this in perspective, a “bio lab” in China means, by definition, it has military and intelligence ties in some form or fashion. The PLA’s primary mission to “preserve, protect and defend”, so to speak, the Chines Communist Party (CCP).

Here’s the link:

Coronavirus Began in Chinese Lab? US Investigates - YouTube

The Chinese lab director has denied any and all involvement … yadda. The director is also a senior member of the CCP.


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When the China flu started it has been said the first thing to disappear from the news was the pro democracy demonstrations in China.
Related in the sense that Chinese Intel is working this behind the scenes with their "diplomats."

“An EU report about Chinese and Russian disinformation on coronavirus was watered down after pressure from Beijing.

Three people confirmed to POLITICO that Chinese diplomats exerted pressure on the EU to change the wording of the report, details of which were first reported in Brussels Playbook on Tuesday.

The report — on "narratives and disinformation" around the coronavirus pandemic — was finally published on Friday with heavily toned-down language on China.”


The complete story can be found in this link:

China put pressure on EU to soften coronavirus disinformation report - POLITICO


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I love conspiracy theories, NOT.

This, however, about what the Pentagon knew, needs further investigation.

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When it comes to the ongoing Stealth War by the CCP against the USA, it’s easy to understand why they would think we are existentially dumb, or maybe naïve is a nicer word?

Here’ the first part of the article:

Chinese company Da Jiang Innovations, the world’s largest maker of drones, has donated drones to 43 law enforcement agencies operating in 22 U.S. states to enforce social distancing rules.”

It's a safe bet the Chinese drones flying over US cities are passing the feed back to Chinese Intel through various technical means.

Here’s the link for the full article.
Chinese Company Suspected Of Spying On US Citizens Donates Police Drones To 22 States | Zero Hedge


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