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Old 12-09-2024, 11:45 AM
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Person of interest nabbed in fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside NYC hotel
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[QUOTE=Rainger99;2392142]Person of interest nabbed in fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside NYC hotel[/QUOTe

High School Valedictorian. Graduate of Ivy League University. 26 years old. Beef against corporate greed. Name is Luigi Mangione.

I think he is from Maryland.
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Hopefully, the observant individual at the McDonalds gets the full reward. Be nice if UHC would put some in the reward kitty.
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Jury selection will be interesting if he goes to trial. He could get off just like OJ.
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Hopefully, the observant individual at the McDonalds gets the full reward. Be nice if UHC would put some in the reward kitty.
I heard that UHC kicked in a $25 co-pay. . .

Good that they have arrested a highly probably suspect.
Agree that the jury selection will be interesting. He is an amateur for sure, still carrying around similar weapons and with a public manifesto.

Friends of my xwife knew a contract killer hit man. Lived next door to their camp in Maine. Didn't know anything about the person, and neither did the guy's wife, until the FBI showed up one day and hauled him off forever.

He just went on business trips for a week or so. .

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That sure looks like the guy in one of the pictures where he is smiling at someone.

The defense will have quite an easy job of finding jurors who can relate to accused.
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The defense will have quite an easy job of finding jurors who can relate to accused.
The trial will be in New York. From the comments that I have seen online, I think it will be hard to get all 12 jurors to convict. At least one or two jurors will hate insurance companies and will vote to acquit - no matter the evidence.
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That sure looks like the guy in one of the pictures where he is smiling at someone.

The defense will have quite an easy job of finding jurors who can relate to accused.
I would hope that the jury pool will consist of good Americans who look to the laws of the USA and know premeditated. murder when they see it. As far as the chorus of internet nonsense that this heinous crime has any legitimacy I can’t fathom how any thinking person could side with a murderer. If we are going to hold CEO’s responsible for all the bad things that happen to us we are in trouble as a society. For example, someone doesn’t get warranty coverage on their car so they begin to plot revenge? Everyone talks about how great it would be to have national health insurance like Canada and England, but what they forget is that these countries can do this because they limit access to health care. I can see how difficult it can be for people to watch their loved ones die from deadly diseases and they are willing to try any experimental drug no matter what the cost. These expensive drugs don’t always change the outcome or are not yet accepted by the medical community so they are not approved by different countries, or in the case of the USA, different insurance companies. Even Medicare in the USA does not include all therapies and drugs in its CMS formulary. Would people justify going after Medicare? The internet is a godless place where people often say awful things as they can hide behind the veil of anonymity. I hope the jury looks to the nation’s laws not their own prejudices.
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I would hope that the jury pool will consist of good Americans who look to the laws of the USA and know premeditated. murder when they see it. As far as the chorus of internet nonsense that this heinous crime has any legitimacy I can’t fathom how any thinking person could side with a murderer. If we are going to hold CEO’s responsible for all the bad things that happen to us we are in trouble as a society. For example, someone doesn’t get warranty coverage on their car so they begin to plot revenge? Everyone talks about how great it would be to have national health insurance like Canada and England, but what they forget is that these countries can do this because they limit access to health care. I can see how difficult it can be for people to watch their loved ones die from deadly diseases and they are willing to try any experimental drug no matter what the cost. These expensive drugs don’t always change the outcome or are not yet accepted by the medical community so they are not approved by different countries, or in the case of the USA, different insurance companies. Even Medicare in the USA does not include all therapies and drugs in its CMS formulary. Would people justify going after Medicare? The internet is a godless place where people often say awful things as they can hide behind the veil of anonymity. I hope the jury looks to the nation’s laws not their own prejudices.
Seeing his point of view is one thing. Finding him guilty should be quite easy. If the prosecutor presents a really good case and is lucky with who he or she or they get on the jury.


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Regardless of how this turns out I would take what the media says with a grain of salt. They throw around “ghost gun” like they have any idea. The pic I saw looked like a stippled Glock. Maybe 3D printed. But they also act like you can print an entire functional gun. They use “manifesto” for anything a suspect has written.

This guy is apparently dumb as a stump having kept as much evidence as possible on his person.
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Regardless of how this turns out I would take what the media says with a grain of salt. They throw around “ghost gun” like they have any idea. The pic I saw looked like a stippled Glock. Maybe 3D printed. But they also act like you can print an entire functional gun. They use “manifesto” for anything a suspect has written.

This guy is apparently dumb as a stump having kept as much evidence as possible on his person.
A '"Ghost Gun" is a gun with a home-made receiver with NO serial #.

It is easy to mill from a block of aluminum or via 3D printing. The the receiver can be made to look like a Glock and once you add the addition (Glock) parts, you have what LOOKS like a Glock...

The other arts are easily and LEGALL available to pruchse and have NO identifying markings.

THAT is the definition of a ghost gunt and the media is using the term correctly...
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Luigi Mangione, suspected UnitedHealthcare CEO killer, delivered valedictorian speech about 'challenging the world'
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^^^. I agree.
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That sure looks like the guy in one of the pictures where he is smiling at someone.

The defense will have quite an easy job of finding jurors who can relate to accused.
The eyebrows are distinctive.
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I think you would have to be a pretty dumb prosecutor to lose this case.

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