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Old 10-11-2022, 03:04 PM
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At this point, I would like to say that I imagine, foresee, or predict that by 2050 there will be enough EVs, E golf carts, E-bikes, E-snowmobiles, E-boats, and E-motorcycles (or some other form of ZERO emission vehicles) used around the world - for scientists to be able to measure their effect on climate. Hopefully, the world's population will have remained about the same and there is no nuclear WW3. However, even if the planet continues to warm and hurricanes continue to get stronger - at least, the ZERO-emission vehicles will have contributed to cleaner air. I hope that we can all agree on that point and I hope that we are all alive to see 2050.
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Old 10-11-2022, 03:21 PM
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At this point, I would like to say that I imagine, foresee, or predict that by 2050 there will be enough EVs, E golf carts, E-bikes, E-snowmobiles, E-boats, and E-motorcycles (or some other form of ZERO emission vehicles) used around the world - for scientists to be able to measure their effect on climate. Hopefully, the world's population will have remained about the same and there is no nuclear WW3. However, even if the planet continues to warm and hurricanes continue to get stronger - at least, the ZERO-emission vehicles will have contributed to cleaner air. I hope that we can all agree on that point and I hope that we are all alive to see 2050.
I can agree that those Zero-emission vehicles will contribute to cleaner air IF and only IF the electricity generated to power them is not derived from coal and oil burning power plants.

But I do highly doubt that another 28 years is anywhere long enough to collect data and make any valid conclusions about a 100,000 year climate cycle
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Old 10-11-2022, 03:26 PM
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At this point, I would like to say that I imagine, foresee, or predict that by 2050 there will be enough EVs, E golf carts, E-bikes, E-snowmobiles, E-boats, and E-motorcycles (or some other form of ZERO emission vehicles) used around the world - for scientists to be able to measure their effect on climate. Hopefully, the world's population will have remained about the same and there is no nuclear WW3. However, even if the planet continues to warm and hurricanes continue to get stronger - at least, the ZERO-emission vehicles will have contributed to cleaner air. I hope that we can all agree on that point and I hope that we are all alive to see 2050.
How is the energy needed to make the batteries to be derived from?
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Old 10-11-2022, 05:24 PM
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How is the energy needed to make the batteries to be derived from?
Wind turbines, solar, water wheels, tidal, hand crank and gerbil wheel generators. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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Old 10-11-2022, 05:44 PM
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Wind turbines, solar, water wheels, tidal, hand crank and gerbil wheel generators. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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There are 3 or 4 people on here that I would recommend for the hand crank job
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There are 3 or 4 people on here that I would recommend for the hand crank job
Am I gonna need a new pair of work gloves? 😯
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Old 10-11-2022, 06:05 PM
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Am I gonna need a new pair of work gloves? 😯
Why? Do you think you're one of them?????
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Instead of spending the time to refute almost every single one of your sentences, which fit one of the below categories, I'll just repeat from my earlier post - that you have so aptly shown to be correct.

"...who refuse to believe/try to manipulate/purposely obfuscate the science..."


My favorite part though, is the astounding hubris exhibited in your statement..."call those of us with a knowledge of paleoclimatology and some common sense "selfish"."


I certainly don't claim to always be correct, but I am always on guard for those who are loquacious (as if quantity somehow equates to proof/correctness), have the need to be the smartest in the room and anything said in disagreement - must be instantly discounted. Have a great day.
Take a look at the top three posters on this thread and tell me again who is being "loquacious"?
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At this point, I would like to say that I imagine, foresee, or predict that by 2050 there will be enough EVs, E golf carts, E-bikes, E-snowmobiles, E-boats, and E-motorcycles (or some other form of ZERO emission vehicles) used around the world - for scientists to be able to measure their effect on climate. Hopefully, the world's population will have remained about the same and there is no nuclear WW3. However, even if the planet continues to warm and hurricanes continue to get stronger - at least, the ZERO-emission vehicles will have contributed to cleaner air. I hope that we can all agree on that point and I hope that we are all alive to see 2050.
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The energy fairy...
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Am I gonna need a new pair of work gloves? 😯
To quote Ringo, at the end of "Helter Skelter"... "I've got blisters on me fingers!"
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Thank you. What a wonderful compliment !
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Old 10-11-2022, 10:07 PM
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Wow I started something. Wonder if I can get a job being a cranker for my wife?
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Wow, what a thread. I fail to see why this is so debated and that anyone actually believes humans can do anything to change weather, climate or global warming (if there is such a thing). We may be able to change some things within our own environment, but to change something on a Global scale is probably not within human reach. Do those who believe in God feel that God is not in control of the earth that he created? Do those who believe in Science feel that our level of scientific and technological knowledge is really capable of effecting change on such a global level? We should all leave the planet and then watch the earths evolution over the next few hundred years to see what, if any, change takes place. That's as solid a plan as any trying to have impact on the perceived global warming. IMHO
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Old 10-12-2022, 06:00 AM
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don't we need coal to produce electricity??
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