[tvbound]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

The sky is not falling, but the earth is warming and the actions of 8 billion humans with gigantic earth movers, coal and oil fired factories, wanton destruction of natural habitat is helping to speed up the process. When a few termites access a large structure with a normal lifespan, their activities and population increases hasten the demise of that structure. The termites can't see what they are doing and wouldn't care if they could. But humans are smarter than termites, still, some can't (or won't) see or acknowledge the big picture.
My wife and I have no kids or grand kids, and may have 20 years left, so we needn't care about human kind beyond that. But, we do. We care about our species, our planet, our country, our home. As far as "causes" go, I have two, one large cause "protect earth and keep her healthy'. That is for my fellow humans. My second and small cause is, " save the chocolate mousse". That one is for me. 🍰
😌🙏Peace

"My wife and I have no kids or grand kids, and may have 20 years left, so we needn't care about human kind beyond that. But, we do. We care about our species, our planet, our country, our home."



While obviously in the minority of posters in this thread, you are not alone in the world in being decent human beings and caring about our planet and others - and not just yourselves.

Thank you and may you have another 30+ wonderful years.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Well, most of the world's scientists believe in global warming. The last 8 years are the globally warmest on recorded weather history - 150years. The world's coral reefs are dying and covered in algae due to overfishing by Chinese mega-fishing fleets. Which even sail with a giant fish processing plant about as big as a military carrier. They over-fish one area of the ocean and when there is nothing left but an empty ocean, they move around the globe. China isn't the only country overfishing. (this can easily be checked with the Google machine) This is an example of humans making Global Warming worse.

The pipeline carrying natural gas from Russia to Europe has been sabotaged leaving 4 holes in the pipe. This caused a great quantity of natural gas to erupt and flow into the upper atmosphere and likely causing greater planetary warming. Because of all these factors, most scientists predict increased warming for the next 30 years. This is another example of humans adding to Global Warming.

All over the world glaciers are melting and ending up in the sea. This makes the oceans rise by MEASURABLE amounts. Scientists have been making sea measurements for many years and are SICKENED by the rapid rate of ocean rise in the last few years. The US Navy is making plans for relocating or modifying all their bases on the east coast because of expected high water problems by 2050 (that can also be easily checked on Google) Oh and did I mention that hurricanes are INCREASING in intensity and destructive force........like the recent hurricane Ian, which we are all familiar with.

These and other facts have led most scientists to believe that man's activities are causing the recent warming of the earth........to the scientists, this is known as SETTLED SCIENCE. And they have been warning about this for over 40 years and the average person WON'T believe them. Maybe in 2050 when Miami is underwater and fish are swimming in underwater condos...................it will be too obvious to not be believed !

No way! I hadn't heard any of this before! This is all news to me...

Someone should make sure everyone reads this over and over and over again...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Most electricity in the US is generated by natural gas because it is the most clean-burning fuel. It is clean enough to be burned in people's kitchens. China burns a lot of coal to produce electricity because they are so overpopulated. They would prefer NOT to because it produces great air pollution.

Yes, that is why this stat exists...

"China is leading the world in new coal power plants, building more than three times as much new coal power capacity as all other countries in the world combined in 2020. "

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Go ahead and spend your OWN money on this hype, not mine. Scientists disagree with each other all the time, as much as some agree. The Earth had climate change before we existed and will continue to do so without any assistance with us. We can't stop it. Like I said before, we contribute to air pollution but we don't change the weather. So funny that those that claim to be soooo intelligent have a tendency to believe what other folks tell them, just because of paper credentials. We don't raise or lower the oceans. If you wish to argue about man's contribution to air pollution, I'm with you. If you think you are powerful enough to stop the rotation of the Earth or move it's track away from the Sun to cool it, your hubris is humorous. As it was in the beginning Climate change has always been and always will be, Amen.

"Just because of paper credentials". So, you never believe doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists of any kind because they all have paper credentials?
We don't raise or lower the oceans any more then you raise or lower the electric windows of your car. Our actions affect climate change which raise or lower the oceans. You assist the raising or lowering of your windows by pushing the button which activates an electric motor that raises the window.
"You think you are powerful enough to stop the rotation of the Earth". Rotation of the planet, axis tilt, orbital track are all things that could affect climate change, but they are not the only things and they are not the current subject being under discussion. The subject is the affects of unhealthy ecosystems of our planet that are contributing to the speeding up of climate change. And, No, I am not strong enough. But, with the 8 billion other humans with all their industry and destruction and poisoning of our oceans, forests and air, we are having an impact. And it ain't good.

P.S., Don't want your money. Just want you to be aware of this situation so you will understand when others begin trying to repair the damage. No need to panic.


YET.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

No way! I hadn't heard any of this before! This is all news to me...

Someone should make sure everyone reads this over and over and over again...

So very sorry you were never notified. Glad you are in the loop now. And, as you so wisely recommend, we will make sure everyone reads this over and over.

👧👴👵👲👮👸👼 Have a nice day and please come back again.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

No way! I hadn't heard any of this before! This is all news to me...

Someone should make sure everyone reads this over and over and over again...

Seriously, 2 google clicks will get you to the information about the US Navy getting prepared for ocean rise for their low-lying Naval bases along the eastern seaboard.
........And the Russian gas pipes to Europe have been all over the TV news for the LAST WEEK.
.........And the Chinese GIANT fishing fleets have ANGERED countries in South America and worldwide. The UN is worried about it. It ABSOLUTELY could be found with a little research on Google.
.........I mean seriously.....it's practically common knowledge!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

"Just because of paper credentials". So, you never believe doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists of any kind because they all have paper credentials?
We don't raise or lower the oceans any more then you raise or lower the electric windows of your car. Our actions affect climate change which raise or lower the oceans. You assist the raising or lowering of your windows by pushing the button which activates an electric motor that raises the window.
"You think you are powerful enough to stop the rotation of the Earth". Rotation of the planet, axis tilt, orbital track are all things that could affect climate change, but they are not the only things and they are not the current subject being under discussion. The subject is the affects of unhealthy ecosystems of our planet that are contributing to the speeding up of climate change. And, No, I am not strong enough. But, with the 8 billion other humans with all their industry and destruction and poisoning of our oceans, forests and air, we are having an impact. And it ain't good.

P.S., Don't want your money. Just want you to be aware of this situation so you will understand when others begin trying to repair the damage. No need to panic.


YET.

That was an excellent post and I hope that some forum readers are able to take it in with an open mind. I can see the points about ice ages and earth changes over millions of years. But, I can't see how that in ANY WAY negates the fact that we are dealing today with RECENT changes of warming caused by mankind (and in this case man -cruel to itself) Scientists measure temperatures at various points around the planet. And from those measurements, The FACT has emerged that the last 8 years are the warmest in weather recorded history.

I can't ignore that fact and I am confused as to how that is controversial. And I have pointed out many, many other issues.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That was an excellent post and I hope that some forum readers are able to take it in with an open mind. I can see the points about ice ages and earth changes over millions of years. But, I can't see how that in ANY WAY negates the fact that we are dealing today with RECENT changes of warming caused by mankind (and in this case man -cruel to itself) Scientists measure temperatures at various points around the planet. And from those measurements, The FACT has emerged that the last 8 years are the warmest in weather recorded history.

I can't ignore that fact and I am confused as to how that is controversial. And I have pointed out many, many other issues.

And so the mutual admiration division of the International Tooth Fairy Club rolls on.......

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And so the mutual admiration division of the International Tooth Fairy Club rolls on.......

When you join do they put more money under your pillow when you lose a tooth?

Asking for a friend.

[Hardlyworking]

Why is it that the climate doomsayers always want the other side to have an open mind but refuse to open their own minds? Just curious.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

"Just because of paper credentials". So, you never believe doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists of any kind because they all have paper credentials?
We don't raise or lower the oceans any more then you raise or lower the electric windows of your car. Our actions affect climate change which raise or lower the oceans. You assist the raising or lowering of your windows by pushing the button which activates an electric motor that raises the window.
"You think you are powerful enough to stop the rotation of the Earth". Rotation of the planet, axis tilt, orbital track are all things that could affect climate change, but they are not the only things and they are not the current subject being under discussion. The subject is the affects of unhealthy ecosystems of our planet that are contributing to the speeding up of climate change. And, No, I am not strong enough. But, with the 8 billion other humans with all their industry and destruction and poisoning of our oceans, forests and air, we are having an impact. And it ain't good.

P.S., Don't want your money. Just want you to be aware of this situation so you will understand when others begin trying to repair the damage. No need to panic.


YET.

So, you never believe doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists of any kind because they all have paper credentials?
Never? Actually, you haven't heard of "getting a second opinion?" Well, there are other scientists that do NOT believe in MAN CAUSED climate change. And when those supposed scientists cannot show any proof of man caused, and still ask us to believe them, well.....at least a child misses his/her tooth placed under their pillow and believes their parents when they tell them that the Tooth Fairy exists. How about some proof? When it gets dark outside, it doesn't mean that the Sun was extinguished, even if a scientist was to tell us this.

The subject is the affects of unhealthy ecosystems of our planet that are contributing to the speeding up of climate change. All I suggest is that if you make a statement regarding an absolute, prove it. I believe in air pollution being a problem, even though the air is better today than it was when I was a child. I DON'T believe that the air pollution is "contributing to the speeding up of climate change" The climate has changed every day since the beginning of time and I haven't seen any evidence or proof that man has contributed to it.

P.S., Don't want your money. No, you don't want my money, but the government does. Tax money going toward this fallacy will cost EVERYONE and many of us can find better things to do with our taxes than paying professional grifters.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

When you join do they put more money under your pillow when you lose a tooth?

Asking for a friend.

Quite the opposite. They brainwash you into their cult and try to extort over $100 trillion from you and your children over the next 28 years. (Unless of course you are lucky enough to be in on the joke and cash in----can anyone spell "Solyndra")

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Byte1

[COLOR="Red"] ... When it gets dark outside, it doesn't mean that the Sun was extinguished, even if a scientist was to tell us this.

Come on. EVERYONE knows it gets dark when the god Appollo caries the sun god below the horizon in his chariot

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That was an excellent post and I hope that some forum readers are able to take it in with an open mind. I can see the points about ice ages and earth changes over millions of years. But, I can't see how that in ANY WAY negates the fact that we are dealing today with RECENT changes of warming caused by mankind (and in this case man -cruel to itself) Scientists measure temperatures at various points around the planet. And from those measurements, The FACT has emerged that the last 8 years are the warmest in weather recorded history.

I can't ignore that fact and I am confused as to how that is controversial. And I have pointed out many, many other issues.

"RECORDED HISTORY." Seems like (if I remember correctly in my old age) that I learned in grade school science class that we once had tropical weather throughout this continent. Seems also that there was once a time of glacier movement in this continent that created some of our mountain ranges. They did not teach us that the major climate change was man caused. They didn't even mention the existence of humans during that time/period. Of course, that was what was taught in the "olden" days so they may be teaching it differently now. Along with there being more than two genders....

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And so the mutual admiration division of the International Tooth Fairy Club rolls on.......

Ha! Pretty good try for comedic insult, but I can't quite figure whose style you're following. Is it Don Rickles, the angry guy with insults for everyone? I liked him.