[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Ha! Pretty good try for comedic insult, but I can't quite figure whose style you're following. Is it Don Rickles, the angry guy with insults for everyone? I liked him.

Kind of a fusion of Don Rickles, Paul Lynde, Henny Youngman, Alan King and Rodney Dangerfield. I like to think of it as my own original style. Of course, it's quite easy when I keep getting fed straight lines.

[Bay Kid]

Follow the money.

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Follow the money.

"Follow the money."


Excellent idea.


"Revealed: oil sector’s ‘staggering’ $3bn-a-day profits for last 50 years. Vast sums provide power to ‘buy every politician’ and delay action on climate crisis, says expert."

Revealed: oil sector’s ‘staggering’ $3bn-a-day profits for last 50 years | Fossil fuels | The Guardian

[Byte1]

The fossil fuel industry provides billions in tax revenue, not to mention what the gov reaps from taxing thousands of oil employees and the states' taxes on a gallon of fuel.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Byte1

So, you never believe doctors, lawyers, teachers, scientists of any kind because they all have paper credentials?
Never? Actually, you haven't heard of "getting a second opinion?" Well, there are other scientists that do NOT believe in MAN CAUSED climate change. And when those supposed scientists cannot show any proof of man caused, and still ask us to believe them, well.....at least a child misses his/her tooth placed under their pillow and believes their parents when they tell them that the Tooth Fairy exists. How about some proof? When it gets dark outside, it doesn't mean that the Sun was extinguished, even if a scientist was to tell us this.

The subject is the affects of unhealthy ecosystems of our planet that are contributing to the speeding up of climate change. All I suggest is that if you make a statement regarding an absolute, prove it. I believe in air pollution being a problem, even though the air is better today than it was when I was a child. I DON'T believe that the air pollution is "contributing to the speeding up of climate change" The climate has changed every day since the beginning of time and I haven't seen any evidence or proof that man has contributed to it.

P.S., Don't want your money. No, you don't want my money, but the government does. Tax money going toward this fallacy will cost EVERYONE and many of us can find better things to do with our taxes than paying professional grifters.

Second opinion? Of course. Not 1, or 2, but 3 separate needle biopsies said "no cancer". They were wrong. I owe my life to getting the correct information, not a small bit that makes me feel good or supports what I would like to hear.
And to the oft repeated retort of "prove it", how about this response, "disprove it".
As to "MAN CAUSED climate change", humans didn't cause climate change, but our massive population and our destructive ways "greased the skids" to speed it up.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Hardlyworking

Why is it that the climate doomsayers always want the other side to have an open mind but refuse to open their own minds? Just curious.

Having an open mind is how we "doomsayers" are able to look at and evaluate all the evidence rather than only that which support our preconceived/preferred beliefs.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Kind of a fusion of Don Rickles, Paul Lynde, Henny Youngman, Alan King and Rodney Dangerfield. I like to think of it as my own original style. Of course, it's quite easy when I keep getting fed straight lines.

I'll do my best to try and supply you with suitable material. 😀

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

The fossil fuel industry provides billions in tax revenue, not to mention what the gov reaps from taxing thousands of oil employees and the states' taxes on a gallon of fuel.

As far as tax revenue to the US (or any country for that matter), many more JOBS are being created in the clean energy field. That is the trend for the future. The newest generation of nuclear power plants has safety advantages and better waste fuel elimination over older nuclear plants. Clean energy innovation is producing lower-cost energy and cleaner air and water. There are better uses for OIL than just burning it up into the atmosphere. - such as for medicines and many other products.

So, for jobs, cleaner air, and medicines, as much oil as possible should be left in the ground. To accomplish that, EVs and other zero-pollution engines should be used in automotive applications as much as possible with government incentives. The main goal is to reduce the rate of increase of climate change by about 2050. People today owe that to our future generations.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Having an open mind is how we "doomsayers" are able to look at and evaluate all the evidence rather than only that which support our preconceived/preferred beliefs.

Well, here's the whole irony of this thread. The brainwashed, misinformed climate change advocates will eventually be "right". Yes, oceans will rise and our coastal cities will be underwater. (Just as some ancient cities built 12,000 years ago on what was then the coastline are now underwater, without any help from fossil fuels I may add). And guess what, human activity MAY, I'll repeat MAY (and it's a BIG MAY) accelerate that day by 3-5,000 years so that it comes 22,000 years into the future (NOT next Tuesday). I just hope the decedents of these true believers don't crow "we were right", when all that happened is a minor blip in a cycle going on for millions of years. If they do, they'd be just as wrong as their current day ancestors.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I'll do my best to try and supply you with suitable material. 😀

You and some others are doing a great job. Keep up the good work!!!!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As far as tax revenue to the US (or any country for that matter), many more JOBS are being created in the clean energy field. That is the trend for the future. The newest generation of nuclear power plants has safety advantages and better waste fuel elimination over older nuclear plants. Clean energy innovation is producing lower-cost energy and cleaner air and water. There are better uses for OIL than just burning it up into the atmosphere. - such as for medicines and many other products.

So, for jobs, cleaner air, and medicines, as much oil as possible should be left in the ground. To accomplish that, EVs and other zero-pollution engines should be used in automotive applications as much as possible with government incentives. The main goal is to reduce the rate of increase of climate change by about 2050. People today owe that to our future generations.

Maybe, but those future generations will be born about 25,000 years from now. So I hope everyone realizes by that time they will be as far ahead of us as we are ahead of the Neanderthals. (well, most of us anyway

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Second opinion? Of course. Not 1, or 2, but 3 separate needle biopsies said "no cancer". They were wrong. I owe my life to getting the correct information, not a small bit that makes me feel good or supports what I would like to hear.
And to the oft repeated retort of "prove it", how about this response, "disprove it".
As to "MAN CAUSED climate change", humans didn't cause climate change, but our massive population and our destructive ways "greased the skids" to speed it up.

DISPROVE a negative? How's that work? No one has proved mans intervention in climate change yet, so I'm not ready to throw trillions into a theory. I insist to my wife that if I wash the car, it will definitely rain. How do I know that? Because almost every time I wash my car, it rains. Therefore, it proves my theory. Man exists and the climate changes, therefore it MUST be caused by man, right? Let's not mention that the climate has changed drastically before man existed. Scientists say that, so it must be right according to you, right?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Well, here's the whole irony of this thread. The brainwashed, misinformed climate change advocates will eventually be "right". Yes, oceans will rise and our coastal cities will be underwater. (Just as some ancient cities built 12,000 years ago on what was then the coastline are now underwater, without any help from fossil fuels I may add). And guess what, human activity MAY, I'll repeat MAY (and it's a BIG MAY) accelerate that day by 3-5,000 years so that it comes 22,000 years into the future (NOT next Tuesday). I just hope the decedents of these true believers don't crow "we were right", when all that happened is a minor blip in a cycle going on for millions of years. If they do, they'd be just as wrong as their current day ancestors.

MAY? You did! You said "MAY! Congratulations! You have unlocked the door to greater understanding. Now come outside and behold the interconnected world in which we live. It is a wonderful world and deserves to be cared for and protected by our species.
😀🙏

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As far as tax revenue to the US (or any country for that matter), many more JOBS are being created in the clean energy field. That is the trend for the future. The newest generation of nuclear power plants has safety advantages and better waste fuel elimination over older nuclear plants. Clean energy innovation is producing lower-cost energy and cleaner air and water. There are better uses for OIL than just burning it up into the atmosphere. - such as for medicines and many other products.

So, for jobs, cleaner air, and medicines, as much oil as possible should be left in the ground. To accomplish that, EVs and other zero-pollution engines should be used in automotive applications as much as possible with government incentives. The main goal is to reduce the rate of increase of climate change by about 2050. People today owe that to our future generations.

Over 2 million are employed by the fossil fuel industry. Are there that many in the clean energy field? Of those in the clean energy field, are they there because of attempts to clean up fossil fuel? Or, are they ALL working on battery operated cars?
Going to reduce the rate of increase in climate change? What does that mean? You don't want the climate to change? When was there ever a time in history where the climate did not change? Sorry, but just saying that there is a climate change crisis does not convince people that it is caused by man. You might wish to stick to telling folks that there is an air pollution. You might be able to convince folks to quit eating meat because animals flatulence causes methane. Maybe you can convince folks from having babies because there are too many people in the world. Maybe if we eliminate all living things from the world, the world will be nice and clean. Darn, we still have to stop the volcanoes from doing more harm in our atmosphere than all the people living on earth.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

MAY? You did! You said "MAY! Congratulations! You have unlocked the door to greater understanding. Now come outside and behold the interconnected world in which we live. It is a wonderful world and deserves to be cared for and protected by our species.
😀🙏

Good comeback---not a great comeback, but a good one

PS: I posted a BIG MAY, so only congratulate me about 15%