[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Who doesn't love MR. Fusion .......which actually was in the news recently about a lab-controlled breakthrough amounting to getting more energy out than put in for the 1 st time. But still, a long way to go.
...... But, neither of us nor anyone can say for SURE that the Oil and Gas industry did NOT fund anti-nuke rallies either DIRECTLY or by using anti-nuke propaganda. The Oil and Gas industry has some SMART covert operators that may have infiltrated the anti-nuke movement. They have the money and the motivation to hire the BEST covert operators. And they have been excelling at PROPAGANDA for as long as we have been alive. They are the industry that gets paid for NOT DRILLING.....pretty special......no ??????
.....Oil and gas practically owns one TV channel that can convince Americans that black is white.

And believe it or don't ......we can actually agree about your 2nd paragraph about the safety of nuclear energy plants. And I also twice pointed out that Oliver Stone made that point at Davos (anyone can google that). And some poster badmouthed Oliver Stone. Well, he would HAVE to be a pretty sharp "cookie" to be able to have directed and produced some of the top films ever produced. I bet he is EVEN smarter than me. But, more IMPORTANTLY, Davos just does not just let any old "wineo" come in out of the street and speak to the greatest businessmen on the planet. Oliver Stone is a legendary intellect that has a GOOD point to make and deserves a seat at the table with the TOP THINKERS of our time !!!!!!

Does the saying "Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in a while" ring a bell? He'a a "legendary intellect"? Bwahahaha! He's a bit of a lunatic conspirascy theorist...

That's Oliver Stone... Being a movie producer, or an actor, for that matter means nothing other than you can produce movies or act...

And now you're going with the oil & gas industry "infiltrated the anti-nuke movement???

I gotta' give you credit. You do continue to "jamuse" me!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Actually one sentence I saw said near record. But, in another paragraph or maybe an article it was stated that because it was well into JANUARY that it is about impossible that 2023 will not be a record.
.....But, it is GREAT that yourself and maybe others looked up the % of ICE because it is another (of many) proofs that the planet has warmed to record levels in the past 8 years. Contrary to what one poster claims. And another keeps believing that I am talking in Geological centuries, when in fact I am talking about real-time, right now, when CO2 is not able to be taken in by the amount of plants on earth and the upper atmosphere is acting like a blanket and setting records for HEAT on Earth. Somehow, I am having difficulty getting my point across. I can understand that some people may NOT care. And some people may have a different opinion, but what I don't understand is why after I have put out so many different FACTS, why my statement of those facts is attacked ??????

No, I just don't believe that one year (much like one big hurricane) proves anything... It's obvious that you do believe those "non-scientific" stats...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I covered that next to last ? in a prior post. It is EASIER to clean up 1 LARGE STATIONARY power plant than a bizzillion in- FER-nal Combustion Vehicles accelerating and decelerating around town.

I also covered the last ? in a prior post. Electrical vehicles are simpler to design, build, maintain, and fuel than gas vehicles. They also have a lower center of gravity so the accelerate quicker and they ROLL OVER with more difficulty, especially golf carts. So, this SIMPLICITY will, over time and more production, lead to LESS costly and more reliable vehicles. Plus it does NOT take a Nostradamus to realize that E-Vehicles are the FUTURE.
.......But, this Nostradamus is predicting that he will have to repeat a similar post for the next 5 years
........and to all a goodnight ......

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I would agree to a certain extent and it reminds me that MY personal idol .....Greta Thunberg traveled from Sweden (I think) aboard a boat powered by sails and solar energy. It took her awhile, but she is young and TIME is on her side. It probably would NOT be the BEST thing for the WORLD if Oliver Stone traveled that SAME way....SLOWLY.
..........Oliver Stone is at the PEAK of his productive and artistic life so I don't think if we voted on having him fly or take a slow boat, that the majority would NOT want him to fly. The SAME can be said for Presidents, Congress people, Generals, sports stars, etc. In the future, maybe they can take aircraft and boats powered by Fusion engines and there will be nothing to complain about.

Stone hasn't directed a non-conspiracy movie in 20 years...

He went off the deep end decades ago...

And here's what your idol does when she's alone...

"Plastics"...

[Tvflguy]

Originally Posted by rsimpson

But, what you are not saying, or admitting to, is that they (climate scary people) are TEARING DOWN existing energy sources BEFORE the new technologies are available. Ruining our (US) economy and lifestyles while China, India, Central American make NO CHANGES to their responsible and larger impacts, is ludicrous. Electric Cars are a joke - batteries are worse for the planet than fossil fuels. etc. etc. Develop real energey solutions, not solar/wind where the elites are skimming billions of dollars.

++++ to all you said. Perfectly said. Thank you.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

OK, I will Google Chomsky and I will do that simply because it seems to mean a lot to yourself and I ADMIRE the emotional commitment to your hypothesis.

Yep, he means a lot to me. Never heard of him until my brother in law sent me that link a week ago.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Does the saying "Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in a while" ring a bell? He'a a "legendary intellect"? Bwahahaha! He's a bit of a lunatic conspirascy theorist...

That's Oliver Stone... Being a movie producer, or an actor, for that matter means nothing other than you can produce movies or act...

And now you're going with the oil & gas industry "infiltrated the anti-nuke movement???

I gotta' give you credit. You do continue to "jamuse" me!

Gad dam happy to Jamuse somebody.......Now Oliver Stone MUST have SOME credibility with SOMEone in order to be invited to speak at Davos. I didn't get an invitation, maybe it got lost in the mail. Regardless of Mr. Stone's qualifications for speaking there.......He DID speak there and I agree with him that the recent modern version of Nuclear Energy has great potential to REDRESS the major problems of Global Warming (species extinction being only one small problem) Coal mining causes injuries and hurts the environment. Gas pipes leading to residential homes are notorious for leaking. Gas stoves have exploded from time to time and caught homes on fire. In the past, there was a large oil pipe rupture spilling oil throughout the Gulf of Mexico.
.......So basically, ALL types of energy have the POWER to produce destruction. After all, they have POWER which can NOT be perfectly functioning at ALL times.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Does the saying "Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in a while" ring a bell? He'a a "legendary intellect"? Bwahahaha! He's a bit of a lunatic conspirascy theorist...

That's Oliver Stone... Being a movie producer, or an actor, for that matter means nothing other than you can produce movies or act...

And now you're going with the oil & gas industry "infiltrated the anti-nuke movement???

I gotta' give you credit. You do continue to "jamuse" me!

Hey, I just thought of something, I may write to Oliver Stone and suggest that he get a script written and direct a movie about how the Gas and Oil industries paid subversive agents to embed themselves within the anti-nuke and anti-oil spill radical lefty wing-nuts. Maybe Greta Thunberg IS a DOUBLE-agent. Oh boy.......the plot thickens. Maybe I will even write that book......that will keep me busy, out of trouble, and off the pages of TOTV for a year. But, I might be missed.....or NOT.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Hey, I just thought of something, I may write to Oliver Stone and suggest that he get a script written and direct a movie about how the Gas and Oil industries paid subversive agents to embed themselves within the anti-nuke and anti-oil spill radical lefty wing-nuts. Maybe Greta Thunberg IS a DOUBLE-agent. Oh boy.......the plot thickens. Maybe I will even write that book......that will keep me busy, out of trouble, and off the pages of TOTV for a year. But, I might be missed.....or NOT.

Or maybe write that book and produce the movie about cow farts---oops, I mean burps

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Stone hasn't directed a non-conspiracy movie in 20 years...

He went off the deep end decades ago...

And here's what your idol does when she's alone...

"Plastics"...

Please, it is NOT nice to pick on poor, little Tunnybergie. Always RESPECT your non-elders. In the photograph's right front foreground, it looks like a corrugated PAPER coffee cup. The mustard and ketchup containers on the left are plastic, but they probably belong at the table on that train. She can't arbitrarily throw them out, can she? And she is eating bananas to help prevent poverty in the southern hemisphere. (how thoughtful). So, my conclusion is still.......you GO, Greta girl.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by rsimpson

But, what you are not saying, or admitting to, is that they (climate scary people) are TEARING DOWN existing energy sources BEFORE the new technologies are available. Ruining our (US) economy and lifestyles while China, India, Central American make NO CHANGES to their responsible and larger impacts, is ludicrous. Electric Cars are a joke - batteries are worse for the planet than fossil fuels. etc. etc. Develop real energey solutions, not solar/wind where the elites are skimming billions of dollars.

As to E-vehicles being a "joke" and E-batteries "being worse for the planet than fossil fuel".....that MAY OR MAY NOT be true - regardless, battery technology is in the Model T - type early days of development. They will, in coming years get lighter, stronger, available everywhere, produce more current, and will probably be recyclable into new, refreshed batteries. I read a story on a NEW battery concept with an air dielectric between the + and - plates. Development will accelerate just like an E-vehicle can accelerate far quicker than an in-fer-nal combustion antique vehicle. See all those pistons STRUGGLING to go up and then down, while the E-vehicle engine is SMOOTHLY turning in a circle.

Saudi Arabian officials themselves have stated that they will run out of OIL in 20 YEARS. So, what do you think that will do to the price of oil and a gal of gasoline? Gas could become so expensive that ICE vehicles become LAWN ornaments. Meanwhile, electric vehicles' prices will be down and electric energy will be generated by CLEAN, SAFE nuclear reactors, or even some new, better technology.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Yep, he means a lot to me. Never heard of him until my brother in law sent me that link a week ago.

Maybe Noam Chomski will become my NEW idol and replace Greta Thunberg.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

As to E-vehicles being a "joke" and E-batteries "being worse for the planet than fossil fuel".....that MAY OR MAY NOT be true - regardless, battery technology is in the Model T - type early days of development. They will, in coming years get lighter, stronger, available everywhere, produce more current, and will probably be recyclable into new, refreshed batteries. I read a story on a NEW battery concept with an air dielectric between the + and - plates. Development will accelerate just like an E-vehicle can accelerate far quicker than an in-fer-nal combustion antique vehicle. See all those pistons STRUGGLING to go up and then down, while the E-vehicle engine is SMOOTHLY turning in a circle.

Saudi Arabian officials themselves have stated that they will run out of OIL in 20 YEARS. So, what do you think that will do to the price of oil and a gal of gasoline? Gas could become so expensive that ICE vehicles become LAWN ornaments. Meanwhile, electric vehicles' prices will be down and electric energy will be generated by CLEAN, SAFE nuclear reactors, or even some new, better technology.

Ever heard of the "rotary engine?" Hmmm, haven't heard much of it lately.
"run out of oil in 20 years?" America is supposed to have another 500 years worth. Ever heard of ICE being fueled by used fast food oil? Ever heard of fuel made from corn? Sugar?
Battery powered cars. Yes, they have been around for over a hundred years. Don't you think that if they were so great that they would be more popular by now? I suppose "some" folks believe that the oil industry conspiracy would be that great amounts of money is being used to subdue electric car exploration?
Maybe electric power will replace ICE but it's rather stupid to ban ICE before electric power is a plausible replacement. And that is exactly what is being attempted, banning a reasonable mode of transportation to be replaced by inadequate pie in the sky ideas. Replacing the horse pulling a wagon with a goat is not considered improving ones ability to travel. All we are doing right now is attempting to take away the low income populations' ability to travel to their places of employment, shopping and medical appointments. Electric vehicles are out of the low income populations' grasp.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Ever heard of the "rotary engine?" Hmmm, haven't heard much of it lately.
"run out of oil in 20 years?" America is supposed to have another 500 years worth. Ever heard of ICE being fueled by used fast food oil? Ever heard of fuel made from corn? Sugar?
Battery powered cars. Yes, they have been around for over a hundred years. Don't you think that if they were so great that they would be more popular by now? I suppose "some" folks believe that the oil industry conspiracy would be that great amounts of money is being used to subdue electric car exploration?
Maybe electric power will replace ICE but it's rather stupid to ban ICE before electric power is a plausible replacement. And that is exactly what is being attempted, banning a reasonable mode of transportation to be replaced by inadequate pie in the sky ideas. Replacing the horse pulling a wagon with a goat is not considered improving ones ability to travel. All we are doing right now is attempting to take away the low income populations' ability to travel to their places of employment, shopping and medical appointments. Electric vehicles are out of the low income populations' grasp.

I already covered the idea in that last sentence. Bottom line E-vehicles are here to stay. Just look out your window at the E-bike and E-golf carts go by. It is just the beginning. E-vehicles will decrease in price as MORE people buy them. As more people WANT them ........more companies will SUPPLY them. The companies compete on price and the price goes DOWN. That is just a LAW of business.

Agreed that it would NOT be a good idea to replace ICE vehicles before an adequate supply of E-vehicles is being manufactured. Maybe you are referring to California, which is seeking to STIMULATE the evolution and trend toward E-vehicles by passing legislation.........I don't know the details of it......just at (SOME) date in the future (maybe 2035 or 40) they will REQUIRE all NEW vehicles sold in Ca. to be ELECTRIC. They are NOT banning ICE vehicles from operating in Ca. They are merely doing what GOOD government SHOULD do........shoving / motivating people toward ACCEPTANCE of NEW and better ideas. They have experts that can read the FUTURE somewhat better than the "man on the street". Sort of like Social Security and the Affordable Care Act, which were GREAT for American older and low-income people, but were initially considered too PROGRESSIVE to be functional. Those are examples of the government LEADING America into a better future.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Gad dam happy to Jamuse somebody.......Now Oliver Stone MUST have SOME credibility with SOMEone in order to be invited to speak at Davos. I didn't get an invitation, maybe it got lost in the mail. Regardless of Mr. Stone's qualifications for speaking there.......He DID speak there and I agree with him that the recent modern version of Nuclear Energy has great potential to REDRESS the major problems of Global Warming (species extinction being only one small problem) Coal mining causes injuries and hurts the environment. Gas pipes leading to residential homes are notorious for leaking. Gas stoves have exploded from time to time and caught homes on fire. In the past, there was a large oil pipe rupture spilling oil throughout the Gulf of Mexico.
.......So basically, ALL types of energy have the POWER to produce destruction. After all, they have POWER which can NOT be perfectly functioning at ALL times.

Yes, he has "credibility" among the globalists at Davos... And apparently with you... To the rest of the sane world, the a whacky conspiracy theorist...

And you're correct. EVERYTHING as an element of risk. Windmills kill large birds. Birds that you and I would be jailed for killing.

Solar farms not only cook birds, they raise the global temperature, adding to your dreaded "Global Warming"...