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Taltarzac725 01-24-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179465)
The Weather Club does not do field trips. It just takes trips to explore data, such as this one showing how the oceans are cooling -- which parallels the atmosphere's 7-year cooling trend.

Temperature graph misrepresented to deny climate change | AP News

Not so fast!

Two Bills 01-24-2023 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179465)
The Weather Club does not do field trips.

Far too hot! :smiley:

jimjamuser 01-24-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2179472)

Well, that settles it - drop the mike - the debate is OVER. Someone on this FORUM has been lying through his growing bigger Pinocchio nose. Let us just HOPE that there will be NO more polluting us with misinformation and weird 4th-grade graphs. They have been exposed.

sounding 01-24-2023 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2179472)

There's nothing fast about it -- just simple cooling. Look at the last few years (7 for atmosphere and 10 for oceans) to see the slight cooling trend. The AP is famous for climate alarmism and data misinformation. The Weather Club exposes all this fraud -- continuing next month with Carl Sagan's fake runaway greenhouse affect on Venus.

Bill14564 01-24-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2179472)

Thank you for posting this!

JMintzer 01-24-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179453)
Nice that someone mentioned MY FAV.....the great legend Warren Zevon. Someone else mentioned 1965, I was talking about his whole superb and wonderous career. Most remember his "Werewolves of London" which was over-played. I got tired of hearing that because it was just a throwaway novelty song. The novelty-type songs were BIG back then and made many people the BIG bucks.
......He had some more substantial songs (not hits). My personal FAV was, "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" ........That one was way COOL, just unique and extraordinary. Next, I would rate, "Send Lawyers, Guns,
and Money". Next, "He's Just an Excitable Boy". Next, "Poor, Poor, Pitiful, Me". Next, "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead".
.......They all have "catchy titles".

"Enjoy Every Sandwich"...

JMintzer 01-24-2023 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179458)
I believe that Arnold Palmer could. But, then he was God-like and well-liked and from a beautiful small city located in God's country.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/58/66/8a/5...b7d6ef2527.jpg

sounding 01-25-2023 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2179478)
Far too hot! :smiley:

It's too hot in China too ... Mohe: China's northernmost city records coldest day ever | CNN

Two Bills 01-25-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179658)

Probably warmest year ever in UK.

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sounding 01-25-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2176420)
Excellent talk on climate change. It is from the Oxford Union Society debates on January 12, 2023.

https://youtu.be/zJdqJu-6ZPo

Excellent review of the "climate change speech" ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o0bPYPJA9I

sounding 01-25-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2179668)
Probably warmest year ever in UK.

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That's very true -- for those who believe the world began in 1884. For those who study legitimate climate change, there are numerous studies showing just the opposite. Here's just one ... Ancient Greenland was much warmer than previously thought

Bill14564 01-25-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179682)
That's very true -- for those who believe the world began in 1884. For those who study legitimate climate change, there are numerous studies showing just the opposite. Here's just one ... Ancient Greenland was much warmer than previously thought

Not sure what your point is. From the article (you have to read past the headline to find this):
There is one caveat. Well-known changes in Earth's orbit caused warming during the early Holocene and Last Interglacial periods. Today, warming stems from man-made sources and is happening much faster than warming during those interglacial periods. That means there is a chance that Earth might not respond to current-day warming in the same way.

"Past climate is our best analog for future warming, and our results hint that land at these very high latitudes in the Arctic may warm even more than predicted in the coming century," Axford said. "But nothing in Earth's past is a perfect analog because what's happening today is totally unprecedented."

golfing eagles 01-25-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2179690)
Not sure what your point is. From the article (you have to read past the headline to find this):
There is one caveat. Well-known changes in Earth's orbit caused warming during the early Holocene and Last Interglacial periods. Today, warming stems from man-made sources and is happening much faster than warming during those interglacial periods. That means there is a chance that Earth might not respond to current-day warming in the same way.

"Past climate is our best analog for future warming, and our results hint that land at these very high latitudes in the Arctic may warm even more than predicted in the coming century," Axford said. "But nothing in Earth's past is a perfect analog because what's happening today is totally unprecedented."

Interesting. Totally wrong, but interesting.

From 21,000 BC to 11,000 BC the average global temperature rose 7 degrees F, much faster than recent weather records indicate for the last 120 years

In addition, during the same time period, ocean levels rose 432 feet. In the last 120 years those levels rose 8 inches. This is a current rate of 6.7 inches/century as opposed to 4.32 feet/century. So much for human activity causing warming or ocean levels to rise.

What's "unprecedented" is the media and government hype over a myth

fdpaq0580 01-25-2023 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179461)
And in March they are going to take a field trip and explore Venus.

Don't know if it would be called a field trip, but they are definitely "trippin'".

sounding 01-25-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2179690)
Not sure what your point is. From the article (you have to read past the headline to find this):
There is one caveat. Well-known changes in Earth's orbit caused warming during the early Holocene and Last Interglacial periods. Today, warming stems from man-made sources and is happening much faster than warming during those interglacial periods. That means there is a chance that Earth might not respond to current-day warming in the same way.

"Past climate is our best analog for future warming, and our results hint that land at these very high latitudes in the Arctic may warm even more than predicted in the coming century," Axford said. "But nothing in Earth's past is a perfect analog because what's happening today is totally unprecedented."

Wow ... love the word unprecedented. Kind of like the unprecedented growth of legalized hunting of hundreds of polar bears each year, unprecedented global human longevity, unprecedented global crop yields, and the unprecedented lack of reporting of the current 7-year cooling trend.


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