Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2178988)

How is washing a paper plate after use, to use again then discard, better then using a ceramic/porcelain plate?

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2178991)

My guess is that he thinks he will reverse 23,000 years of global warming driven by the power of the sun and changes in the Earth's axis by not using 2 quarts of hot water:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Of course, that paper plate will go to Ocala and get burned, adding to his fear of the dreaded CO2

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2179012)

Like I said before, EVs have been around since the 1800's. Looks like the world decided that ICE vehicles were more viable as a mode of commute. How's that EV idea coming along after two hundred years? You mentioned E-bikes and golf carts? Sorry, but they ain't in the same category as REAL transportation.
Hope you are NOT serious about the ACA and SS. Our gov. has already proven that they are totally inept at ANY business management. Case in point, the USPS. Social Security? Sorry, but that is in no way as efficient as privately managed investments.
But, we were not speaking of pie in the sky ideas that always seem to go over like a lead balloon when it comes to gov. management. We were speaking of the evolution of personal transport. I am sure that EV's may hold a "warm" spot in the future, but in the past two hundred years, they have certainly not become the popular or affordable mode of personal transport. Now, if you wish to suggest mass transit such as what is available overseas, I might agree with the idea of our country investing in it. However, in other countries taxes have to be levied to have the gov build the infrastructure. And then taxes for subsidizing travel/commuting for the average citizen.
Like it has been mentioned many times before on here, in order to have a system able to handle the massive drain of electricity power in this country, it's going to cost billions/trillions of power plant expansion. Now we have to consider the increase in HEAT and what it will do to the "climate." Science Fiction is a great past time, but pragmatic thinking is required for sensible and logical progress.
And surely you do not believe that our current problem with inflation is not related to the increased price of oil in this country due to closing down the pipeline, taxes and other related focusing on forcing American citizens to move to inadequate solar, wind and battery power? Someone is sure making a lot of money off of the ignorance of our citizens.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2178945)

Good reason not to have known Chomsky. My excuse is that I was 5 years old at the beginning of 1965 and therefore not "an intellectual"

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2178956)

1 iron :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
maybe someone else had a toy Karl Marx doll

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179108)

Everybody knows that OIL price is a very LARGE part of the current INFLATION. And STREET CARS in many American cities have run on electrical energy and electrical motors since probably about 1900. Remember "a Street Car Named Desire"?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2178944)

Semi-guilty as charged. Prior to this thread (and still) I VAGUELY remember the name (because his is a unique name, very cool). I believe someone said on a post that Chomski was in the news around 1965. At that time most of my reading activities were from a subscription to Time magazine. The Vietnam war occupied most of the articles that I wanted to stay on top of.......also scientific developments.
.......So, I confess I never read any in-depth article about Mr. Chomski. At that time, I was more curious about characters like Tesla, Warren Zevon, President LBJ, Hollywood movies, Electrical Engineering, solid-state calculus, differential equations, Lunar and space science, dog training, dog breeding books, pheasant hunting, bow hunting, hunting pronghorn antelope with a bow, ballistics and gun magazines, sports car characteristics, auto repair, playing high-level basketball, reading tennis books, scuba diving, running in 10-mile races, riding motorcycles and reading about them, lifting weights, drinking, and general carousing.

So basically, at that time, I was NOT too interested in philosophy (although as a young person, I admired Socrates .....mind AND body) or metaphysical concepts. Basically, I was NOT an intellectual, I thought of myself as a pseudo-intellectual.........and STILL do. However, I forgot that I read a book on hypnosis and then was able to hypnotize some friends, but I got scared and stopped when I had much trouble having one come OUT, a scary situation.
......NOI an intellectual.......that's my life story and it has no glory.
.......Got to go now......got to Chomski on some breakfast.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2176420)

Excellent talk on climate change. It is from the Oxford Union Society debates on January 12, 2023.

https://youtu.be/zJdqJu-6ZPo

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2179194)

Chomsky, not Chomski. And it's Professor, not Mister. He was a Professor at MIT when I went to college up the street at Emerson back in the early 1980's. My claim to fame re: Chomsky - he put a $1 bill in my guitar case when I was performing in Harvard Square once.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2179148)

Pffft... I was 7 and read Chomsky religiously... In fact, I did my 1st grade thesis on him... :1rotfl:

And what's the deal on "Warren Zevon" in 1965? He had one minor hit (as a duo) in '66 and didn't make a name for himself until '75...

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2179149)

I call BS...

"Even God can't hit a 1 iron"

- Lee Trevino

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2177737)

Here we go again.

1) In the long term, "climate change" is a problem----after all, in 25,000 years NY City will be under 400 feet of water, and 50,000 years after that it will be under 2 miles of ice. So yes, it is a problem, assuming humans aren't extinct in that time frame, in which case it might be a problem for cockroaches to deal with.

2) IF, and it's a big IF human civilization is a contributing factor, it is miniscule at best. This is not withstanding the assertion by another climate change "believer" that cow farts are the biggest problem. Maybe cows will still be around in 25,000 years. To those who "believe", in anthropomorphic global warming (along with Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy), explain how human civilization has caused 23,000 years of global warming to the tune of approximately 8 degrees F. Did we use the wrong kind of wood fire to cook our mastodon and saber tooth tiger meat in our caves???? Did Fred Flintstone's SUV only get 8 mpg??? Or do they just want to harp on how the ONE latest hurricane reflects 100,000 years of climate change? Give us a break from delusional thinking.

3) Of course we can reduce our "contribution", but keep in mind half of nothing is still nothing. But by all means let's spend the proposed 100 TRILLION dollars to try.

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179425)

Agree, great video. He points out the fraud and hypocrisy in today's climate alarmism. Today's non-stop media blitz of climate misinformation is creating unnecessary climate fear, when in fact, today's climate is much better than when CO2 levels were much lower. Much of this alarmism was created by Carl Sagan with his misguided "runaway greenhouse affect" theory on Venus. This unfortunate Sagan legacy will be reviewed at the Weather Club's February meeting ... The Villages Weather Club

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2179460)

Ditto ... Golfing Eagles for President.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2179461)

And in March they are going to take a field trip and explore Venus.