[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

The people on a cruise ship who get vaccinated and catch the virus usually do not get serious case and die from it.

I think the same could be said for unvaccinated people - they usually don't get a serious case and die from it, either. Of course, there are no cruises for the unvaxed to use for comparison purposes.

I can say that I was at a hotel/casino/event venue that had the policy that the guests were responsible for assessing and mitigating their own risks. There were only a handful of people that I saw wearing masks and, of course, there was no way to tell who was/was not vaxxed. Some were, some weren't. No one seemed too worried about it either way. I would be fine going on a cruise with the same sort of policy.

[SHERYLNOLAND]

As with so many that preach "personal choice," your remarks imply that any other's personal choice that disagrees with your personal choice is either incredibly altruistic or incredibly stupid...since you have no mind reading skills indicated, you also have no way of knowing anyone's "medical concerns." Additionally, mask wearing may be no more than a sensory reminder not to touch one's face when in public. Finally, why is someone else's mask wearing any of your concern or meriting your comment, at all..? How omniscient you must be, to be the arbiter of everyone's conduct! Exhausting, I'm sure! You should go take a nap, and give your commentary a rest!

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sounds a bit high, but may be in the ballpark for a cruise. I was at the Sharon last week and out of 900+ attendees, I could only spot 5 with a mask, although there could have been more. So my question to these 1-20% minority who are wearing the paper masks is this: Are you so incredibly altruistic that you believe you are protecting the other 99% from yourself, or are you so incredibly stupid that you still believe a paper mask is protecting yourself? I think 99% of us know that answer. And please, no idiotic responses such as "any protection is better than none" or "I feel safer wearing one" , you would just be making the point. People with legitimate medical concerns are exempt.

[PugMom]

i'm going to have to side with Eagles here. my own doc tells me the paper masks are useless, & now it's not required @ Creekside Medical, just OPTIONAL.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by SHERYLNOLAND

As with so many that preach "personal choice," your remarks imply that any other's personal choice that disagrees with your personal choice is either incredibly altruistic or incredibly stupid...since you have no mind reading skills indicated, you also have no way of knowing anyone's "medical concerns." Additionally, mask wearing may be no more than a sensory reminder not to touch one's face when in public. Finally, why is someone else's mask wearing any of your concern or meriting your comment, at all..? How omniscient you must be, to be the arbiter of everyone's conduct! Exhausting, I'm sure! You should go take a nap, and give your commentary a rest!

And here we have yet another ridiculous response that suggests "personal choice" over facts and science. May I suggest YOU make a "personal choice" to take a nap?
PS: Nice 2nd post in 9 years

[Garywt]

Originally Posted by paulajr

wow...you really believe that "Many or most"here don't believe COVID exists? WRONG. Perhaps we just didn't believe all the HYPE around it. There is a difference between being "careful" and being obsessed and terrified.

From day 1 Villages refused to keep away from each other and still met at the town squares etc refusing to follow the rules because their master told them it was fake.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Garywt

From day 1 Villages refused to keep away from each other and still met at the town squares etc refusing to follow the rules because their master told them it was fake.

The vast majority were very good at social distancing. And yes there were too many people sitting at bars shoulder to shoulder however a small minority.

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by Garywt

From day 1 Villages refused to keep away from each other and still met at the town squares etc refusing to follow the rules because their master told them it was fake.

And? Was there mass death and bodies being burned in the streets because Villagers continued to socialize? I don't recall hearing anything about that.

What I do know is that elderly people living in stand alone Independent Living apartments were still able to see their families, go to the grocery and otherwise get out.

Whereas, people living in LTCs (continuing care, assisted living, memory care, nursing homes) were more or less on lock down and kept isolated away from their families and the rest of the world and even masked and socially distanced from each other within their facilities. Were they safer from Covid? Probably. But that isolation was very hard on many of those elderly and their worrying family members. That was a big reason for the push to get the vaccine out there in record speed.

Masks have been bones of contention since the very beginning of this ordeal. And that hasn't changed. Overall, I prefer to just live the life that the good Lord gave me and not obsess about things that are beyond my control.

[Garywt]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Alex, I'll take partial quotes out of context for $400 please. Or do you work for the news media that does that all the time? So here is the WHOLE question posed: "So my question to these 1-20% minority who are wearing the paper masks is this: Are you so incredibly altruistic that you believe you are protecting the other 99% from yourself, or are you so incredibly stupid that you still believe a paper mask is protecting yourself?"
Note the word "OR", it really isn't that hard to understand.

As far as the hospital mask policy goes, what does that have to do with cruising or a performance at the Sharon???? Answer----NOTHING (unless it is a cruise of immunocompromised patients).



So yes, we do know what the problem is, and you stayed up to 2:15 to post that nonsense.

So you can make general comments on mask wearing but no one else can. In general you don’t support it and that is fine with you but the rest of the world is wrong if they don’t agree with you. People can do what they want, I don’t care but don’t tell others they are wrong, it is not your business. I follow the rules that are in place and what my oncologist tells me to do, I do not question him. As for being up at 2:15, just about every night I am up to 3-4 as I don’t sleep much since going on chemo almost 9 years ago.

[JuneMarkridge]

And again you are missing the point…as I said - would you tell a surgeon that a mask is not necessary??? Of course not because it certainly protects any transmission of a pathogen. Same for someone who chooses to wear a mask to protect others. Your post was not helpful - just divisive in my opinion and you are supposed to be a healer…

[Gulfcoast]

You all are aware that surgeons don't wear homemade cloth masks or dust masks when they operate on you, right? Even the medical grade surgical masks that they wear are intended more to keep the area sterile as they operate as opposed to stopping viruses.

A cruise ship is hardly a sterile operating room...and really shouldn't be viewed as such.

[Moderator]

Too much sniping and name calling, as per usual with anything related to masks and Covid.
Enough.