[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I find it to be a major point if he standing some distance away not posing an immediate threat to the officer or the public.

12 witnesses corroborate the police officer's version of events that he was assaulted (fractured eye orbit), Mr Brown ran off, police officer commanded Brown to "FREEZE", Brown stopped, turned around, taunted the officer and then rushed at him rapidly. The officer fired in fear for his life.

I would consider a 6'4", 300lb man charging at me rapidly after assaulting me a definite threat and would legitimately fear for my life. Law abiding citizens DO NOT assault law enforcement officers and they follow their commands! If you have a grievance over the officer's performance of his duties, a court of law settles those disputes. You DO NOT attack a police officer.

[JGVillages]

We don't know if the officer used unreasonable or justifiable force, and won't until all the facts are revealed. The problem as I see it is some un-responsible media reporting and very un-responsible support for the victim by certain so called community activists have fueled this fire. Public peaceful demonstration by either side should always be welcomed but the looting and burning of local businesses should NEVER be allowed to continue. Where are the so called community activists hiding out at night when they should be on the front line attempting to stop these unlawful thugs. Little media coverage of the lives and business ruined by these illegal actions! I guess the definition of "ILLEGAL" just does not mean what it used to.

[billethkid]

as I stated in another thread the iltellectual hypothecizing of what should have been done or how many times in a real life threatening situation is a waste of time and underscores lack of knowledge of reality in such a situation!!

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Because I was raised in a home of a police office, I prejudge. I can't imagine anyone shooting someone on the basis of their skin color for doing nothing.

That is because I have several members of my family and several close friends who were in law enforcement. Also the policemen who every year came to my class in school to talk to the children. I have never had any run in's with the law other than the shameful speeding ticket I got about thirty years ago. I have nothing but positive feelings about law enforcement. It is hard for me to think otherwise.

WHY would a man shoot someone for doing nothing???? Black, white, yellow, pink, red or purple? And if it was the first time that you shot at a human, wouldn't that make you awfully nervous? It would me. If I was protecting my children, I would shoot until they weren't moving. I have never shot a gun, so this is all conjecture.

I really don't know why anyone would anyone would shoot another person who was not threatening them or another person, but unfortunately it does happen far too much. It is sometimes by mistake, as the Grandmother, sometimes just plain murder and sometimes because of panic. I hope that the professionals that we employ to protect society would have the expertise to know when to shoot. However, it has been know that they are not infallible and above the law.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I really don't know why anyone would anyone would shoot another person who was not threatening them or another person, but unfortunately it does happen far too much. It is sometimes by mistake, as the Grandmother, sometimes just plain murder and sometimes because of panic. I hope that the professionals that we employ to protect society would have the expertise to know when to shoot. However, it has been know that they are not infallible and above the law.

As measured, assessed and evaluated by who/whom? If one was not there to observe in detail then one has nothing more than an opinion or prejudice.

[dewilson58]

Let's get the children back in school.

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by billethkid

As measured, assessed and evaluated by who/whom? If one was not there to observe in detail then one has nothing more than an opinion or prejudice.

However, many opinions have been expressed on several threads. I am sure we will continue to have several more.

[redwitch]

As has been said, we don't have enough facts to really make any sort of a decision. I'm not pro- or anti-police. There are some really good cops out there. There are some really bad cops out there. Have no clue what kind of officer this was. Do you?

We know Mike Brown was a big kid. We know he was going to start college. We know he had a family who loved him. I have no idea if he was prone to violence when confronted; if he was anti-authority; if he was the class bully or the class clown. Do you?

We know Brown was walking in the middle of the street, was told to move and didn't do so. We don't know if this was told in a way to inflame. We don't know what community-police relations were prior to this incident. We don't know if the officer involved was a bigot who enjoyed bullying teens. We don't know if the officer was just trying to do his job in a reasonable manner without using any inflammatory speech or behavior. Do you?

Assumptions are easy to make. But, to me, there are just too many facts missing to even come up with a reasonable guess for any right or wrong to be assigned.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I really don't know why anyone would anyone would shoot another person who was not threatening them or another person, but unfortunately it does happen far too much. It is sometimes by mistake, as the Grandmother, sometimes just plain murder and sometimes because of panic. I hope that the professionals that we employ to protect society would have the expertise to know when to shoot. However, it has been know that they are not infallible and above the law.

And the perps are not either. Above the law. I still am on the side of law enforcement.

WHY do YOU think this officer fired several times Tennisnut? What is the reason you think he did that? Because the man was black?????????

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

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And the perps are not either. Above the law. I still am on the side of law enforcement.

WHY do YOU think this officer fired several times Tennisnut? What is the reason you think he did that? Because the man was black?????????

I don't know. Do YOU? However, no one is above the law, even the law!! I am on side of the law not just the people who are supposed to enforce the law.

[SisalPhil]

I have worked and or supervised many police shootings. Until all the information is known it is unfair to judge. I can tell you that a police has a right to stop the threat with necessary force. I just hope this investigation can be completed with any outside influence. No officer wants to take a life but unfortunately sometimes it happens.

[John_W]

There are two kinds of people in this world. Those who take, and those who give.



There is also a third, those who blame someone else for all their problems.



That brings us back to those who take.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

I don't know. Do YOU? However, no one is above the law, even the law!! I am on side of the law not just the people who are supposed to enforce the law.

If I may, I would like to ask a few questions, not only of you, but others who believe in the law.

Part of THE LAW is innocent until proven guilty. I have been watching both CNN and MSNBC for a bit today. I kept count, and between those two channels, I have heard the event in question called an execution 17 times by either a host or guest (yes I counted them). I have never heard any of the host or guests suggest that there may have been cause for this shooting. Not one.

That is part of the premise for the question.

Second premise is that I have heard a number of times by those interviewed that they "want the policeman charged"

1. If the grand jury or the investigations do not allow for arrests, what might happen there in Ferguson, and since the LAW was followed, how will you react ?

2. There is a strong feeling among many (I am included in that) that this officer will be arrested simply because of fear of the answer to my question #1 Is that our LAW working ?

3. If the victim in this case was white, would you care about the LAW or how it came out ? Honestly now.

Just curious.

[billethkid]

I would like Holder, Jackson or Sharpton to explain to me what it is these black guys are doing!!! While on ABC, CBS or NBC!!!!!