[Blackbird45]

Positives of this proposal:

• Due to the size of the reward this will truly be SELF-POLICING. Anyone can report a violation even the employee themselves.

• This will not only cover our southern border but will restrict illegal immigration from anywhere.

• The influx of more tax dollars without raising taxes. Taxes are brought in when work is reported by employers. When employers do not report undocumented workers or employees working off the books, they’re skirting the law. These tax dollars also include needed F.I.C.A. contributions which covers Social Security and Medicare.

• Employers will not have to keep track of visa workers; the government can notify employer when the visa holders time is about to expired.

• These cards can be used for other purposes. Lately there has been a focus on voting, one side claiming voter fraud and the other side claiming the lack of voting availability. With this card there will be one vote per card any attempt to place a second vote will be rejected. On election day authorized ATMs will be able to accept your vote, it might even reach a point that someday a voters will have the ability to cast their vote online.

Many people will tell you this is a form of big brother, and they would be absolutely right. But these people are ignoring with the advent of the internet we are already there. What has to be decided does the good outweigh the bad.

[hrenner]

Great answer.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by rich iwaszko

hi,
capitalism has proven to be the best economic system in the world. We are in fact better off then people in any other country as large as ours. The problem is, as any economist will tell you, the result of rampant capitalism is socialism. When the workers of a country are getting abused some social programs are needed to stabilize the situation. Examples, minimum wage laws, social security, unions. We have in fact looked to other parts of the world for cheap labor, as our labor is no longer cheap, and cheap labor is the coal that stokes capitalism. So we don't make anything anymore. We have become middle men for their products. Cheap labor has long been abused and still is, it's just not our people. My point here is that we have to accept some social programs so that capitalism won't disappear leaving total socialism and military rule like in many other countries. The trick is the right social programs. All thoughts are welcome..........

capitalism fueled by manifest destiny has created the greatest work force in the world creating for the most part entry into a middle class which other repressive models of countries do not allow. The best part of our system is how our small businesses employ people with little skills and empowers them to seek better higher jobs as they work their way towards higher better paid skill sets by attending small colleges, 4 year schools, vocational training schools. These workers are nearly 50 % of our entire work force and are the highest group to start up new small businesses therfore creating a self sustaing chain reaction to grow.
In terms of social programs the ones that allow you to become a permanent beneficiary eg. Project apts being passed down generation to generation are the abject failures, along with higher paid benefits for the more children they produce.
Social programs need
firm cut off points and mandatory retraining so they join the work force at the small business levels and hopefully move up from there to higher paying careers

[rsmurano]

Any socialism is bad. Who gives anybody the right to take money away from someone to give it to another? Nobody should have that right. This doesn’t work and that’s been proven. The only people that make money in the unions are the unions.
Capitalism pays off when somebody wants to go above and beyond the norm or if people want to actually work.
Nowadays, nobody wants to work. This generation feels that they deserve to make a high salary or hold a top job without doing the necessary work to get there.

[joelfmi]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Hi,
Capitalism has proven to be the best economic system in the world. We are in fact better off then people in any other country as large as ours. The problem is, as any economist will tell you, the result of rampant capitalism is socialism. When the workers of a country are getting abused some social programs are needed to stabilize the situation. examples, minimum wage laws, social security, unions. We have in fact looked to other parts of the world for cheap labor, as our labor is no longer cheap, and cheap labor is the coal that stokes capitalism. So we don't make anything anymore. We have become middle men for their products. Cheap labor has long been abused and still is, it's just not our people. My point here is that we have to accept some social programs so that capitalism won't disappear leaving total socialism and military rule like in many other countries. The trick is the right social programs. All thoughts are welcome..........

capitalism doesn't work for the majority of the people. It works for millionaires and billionaires. It works for governments and global corporations and investors who are raking in millions on the back of the 'little person'. Capitalism will work better when government's tax these wealthy entities to provide services and opportunities to the less well off in our society. But here in Australia, they won't. Our current government will let the environment be destroyed and leave people homeless on the street, while billionaires such as Gina Rhinehart pollute our atmosphere and increase their wealth exponentially. We can spend hundreds of millions 'fighting' wars - but we have a government that wants us working until we are 70 and wants people under 30 left with no benefits for six months of each financial year. Gotta love capitalism !!!

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Luggage

We make plenty of things here from underwear and to autos .

HA! Read the fine print. Even things that are labeled made in America are mostly made from parts made in China or elsewhere. Look around all the big manufacturers or at least the majority along with there good paying long term jobs have disappeared from American towns. We are now a country of service industry jobs. The well off and those that serve them. Good by America the great.

[KimmieK]

Perhaps a different social platform would be better for these posts.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by joelfmi

capitalism doesn't work for the majority of the people. It works for millionaires and billionaires. It works for governments and global corporations and investors who are raking in millions on the back of the 'little person'. Capitalism will work better when government's tax these wealthy entities to provide services and opportunities to the less well off in our society. But here in Australia, they won't. Our current government will let the environment be destroyed and leave people homeless on the street, while billionaires such as Gina Rhinehart pollute our atmosphere and increase their wealth exponentially. We can spend hundreds of millions 'fighting' wars - but we have a government that wants us working until we are 70 and wants people under 30 left with no benefits for six months of each financial year. Gotta love capitalism !!!

Just look at the history of socialism and see if your opinion holds up. It won't. But if not convinced pack up and move your ass to a socialist country where you will have no rights and can work hard and give half your earning to the socialist government.

[Ski Bum]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

Positives of this proposal:

• Due to the size of the reward this will truly be SELF-POLICING. Anyone can report a violation even the employee themselves.

• This will not only cover our southern border but will restrict illegal immigration from anywhere.

• The influx of more tax dollars without raising taxes. Taxes are brought in when work is reported by employers. When employers do not report undocumented workers or employees working off the books, they’re skirting the law. These tax dollars also include needed F.I.C.A. contributions which covers Social Security and Medicare.

• Employers will not have to keep track of visa workers; the government can notify employer when the visa holders time is about to expired.

• These cards can be used for other purposes. Lately there has been a focus on voting, one side claiming voter fraud and the other side claiming the lack of voting availability. With this card there will be one vote per card any attempt to place a second vote will be rejected. On election day authorized ATMs will be able to accept your vote, it might even reach a point that someday a voters will have the ability to cast their vote online.

Many people will tell you this is a form of big brother, and they would be absolutely right. But these people are ignoring with the advent of the internet we are already there. What has to be decided does the good outweigh the bad.

Not bad Blackbird. I am an employer, in landscaping, so very familiar with the topic. All I want is a level playing field and a system that works. I currently use the H2B Visa program. We applied for workers last September for arrival in April. We got them in July. Hard to run a business that way. Just FYI, (not complaining), I am required to pay them $18.35/hr.

[jammaiora]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Hi,
Capitalism has proven to be the best economic system in the world. We are in fact better off then people in any other country as large as ours. The problem is, as any economist will tell you, the result of rampant capitalism is socialism. When the workers of a country are getting abused some social programs are needed to stabilize the situation. examples, minimum wage laws, social security, unions. We have in fact looked to other parts of the world for cheap labor, as our labor is no longer cheap, and cheap labor is the coal that stokes capitalism. So we don't make anything anymore. We have become middle men for their products. Cheap labor has long been abused and still is, it's just not our people. My point here is that we have to accept some social programs so that capitalism won't disappear leaving total socialism and military rule like in many other countries. The trick is the right social programs. All thoughts are welcome..........

Government programs to help US citizens who are disadvantaged are important. Our taxes are like the insurance premiums that we pay (homeowners, car. umbrella policies). When there is a disaster in the US, our taxes (premium for FEMA) help the disaster victims. Government exists to help the less fortunate among us, among other purposes.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

OK, I’ll bite. If all the immigrants coming into our country (many of which are entering illegally) aren’t filling the country’s need for cheap labor, then why the hell don’t we close the borders?

The borders are closed. They are only open on the fictional world of Fox News.

[Langwelld]

Capitalism is absolutely the best system to promote good standards of living for a countries citizens, but no system they s perfect. When government officials fail to intervene when workers are exploited then workers group into unions to defend themselves. When government officials in charge of regulating industry are bought off with investment opportunities, job offers, and just plain cash then they fail to do their jobs. This is where we are in certain areas in our USA. It takes a strong leader to stop other countries from enslaving their people so they can use this cheap labor to make better trade deals. One example of the shortcoming of capitalism was the fact that there was great profit incentives to create and market vaccines, but little incentives for therapeutics for treating I’ll patients. Hence millions died with those treatment options since vaccines were not totally effective in preventing infection. This is where government steps in to insure those treatments become available.
B][/B]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Hi,
Capitalism has proven to be the best economic system in the world. We are in fact better off then people in any other country as large as ours. The problem is, as any economist will tell you, the result of rampant capitalism is socialism. When the workers of a country are getting abused some social programs are needed to stabilize the situation. examples, minimum wage laws, social security, unions. We have in fact looked to other parts of the world for cheap labor, as our labor is no longer cheap, and cheap labor is the coal that stokes capitalism. So we don't make anything anymore. We have become middle men for their products. Cheap labor has long been abused and still is, it's just not our people. My point here is that we have to accept some social programs so that capitalism won't disappear leaving total socialism and military rule like in many other countries. The trick is the right social programs. All thoughts are welcome..........

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by rsmurano

Any socialism is bad. Who gives anybody the right to take money away from someone to give it to another? Nobody should have that right. This doesn’t work and that’s been proven. The only people that make money in the unions are the unions.
Capitalism pays off when somebody wants to go above and beyond the norm or if people want to actually work.
Nowadays, nobody wants to work. This generation feels that they deserve to make a high salary or hold a top job without doing the necessary work to get there.

"Any socialism is bad" Good grief. Schools, police and fire departments, roads, bridges, public transportation, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and just a few examples of democratic/socialism. I bet it would surprise you to know that the people who live in the 10 happiest countries to live in, all live in democratic/socialist countries. The USA isn't one of the 10 happiest countries BTW, I suspect because so many people here are one illness away from losing everything..... we are the only civilized country that doesn't have healthcare for all.

[Langwelld]

When effective government does its job to see that citizens are treated fairly and their needs armrest provided for by private industry then you have the best of both socialism and capitalism. But when government takes over these needs of the citizens then you have inefficient waste and incompetence as evidenced by the Berlin Wall the the fall of Russia.

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

"Any socialism is bad" Good grief. Schools, police and fire departments, roads, bridges, public transportation, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and just a few examples of democratic/socialism. I bet it would surprise you to know that the people who live in the 10 happiest countries to live in, all live in democratic/socialist countries. The USA isn't one of the 10 happiest countries BTW, I suspect because so many people here are one illness away from losing everything..... we are the only civilized country that doesn't have healthcare for all.

[Regorp]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

no guts no glory............it's all about economic philosophy only

Sad to say, economics is a memory in our country, people.