Deep Thinkers -- Some Answers

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Old 08-25-2022, 02:05 PM
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4. Artificial Intelligence is only the programming of a robot. The fear its not with the robot but with the programmer. The robot does not have free will, only programmed thought patterns…
You underestimate potential future programming capabilities.
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Old 08-25-2022, 09:14 PM
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You underestimate potential future programming capabilities.
Hmm? When computers can design and build newer and better computers without human input, that means the computers are programming the new ones. One data hiccup and now AI is thinking outside of the box, maybe?
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I’ve spent most of my life working with AI and in my experience most people are surprised to see modern demonstrations of what it can do. That is until they learn how it works. It’s like finding out how a magician pulled it off and the reveal becomes much less impressive. Data scientists and developers spend a lot of time limiting expectations once the demos are done. Still, almost all questions start with; “Can AI figure out…?”

The horses are long out of the barn but concerns about AI are actually related to the data and not AI. If data doesn’t exist AI is useless since it’s function is to find patterns, relationships, make inferences and sometimes predictions about data. AI software does what people can do but with the big data we have today, it would take an uncountable number of work hours full of minute processing with repeatable efficiency for even a small finding.

AI is proving very effective at discerning patterns in historical, curated data such as finding new uses for existing medicines but not as much so for modeling what comes next. Weather apps and struggles with full self driving are a cases in point. AI is effective at applying historical data to real time events (an educated or learned guess) but in real time it’s a bit like knowing Fibonacci sequences are everywhere but figuring out what the numbers are in the patterns of everything happening at the moment is extremely challenging.

Back to the horses out of the barn, or data. You wouldn’t be wrong to assume that many things about you including where your phone or car are and your image is in the big data I wrote about. Many people aren’t very concerned about a machine figuring out we shop every Friday and where or what we purchased. It gets a little more freaky when you know that as long as the data is there, it can guess the church you go to, your friends, and family with surprising accuracy. Even more intimate details are sought after by companies coming from the vitals on a smart watch, cameras, and smart vacuums. It may seem like our data is safe in the obscurity of individual information swimming the enormous sea of big data but finding needles in a haystack is exactly what AI does best. It just can’t predict from your digital twin if you’ll be shopping at Aldi’s on a different day this week to cope with inflation but it can try to guess based on your historical data and what other digital twins somewhat like you are doing.

Still, obscurity of individual data is slow to overcome even with ever faster processors. It’s no wonder Google and others are pursuing Quantum Bit computing because we are hitting limits of all sorts and demands are growing. Because of how similar our digital twins in big data are and imperfect data quality it’s only close to an infallible fingerprint. AI can’t guess what your actually thinking especially about a product for example. It’s also still challenging for governments to classify groups of similar people digitally. Either good or sinister, targeting designer drugs or bio weapons are new frontiers made of the same cloth. That’s where DNA comes in. Whether wanting to know lineage using a DNA service or a medical procedure where DNA matching is used, the process for infallible digital twin data is in place.

What is extremely concerning (at least to me) is that governments that wish to do more than lip service about privacy are so far behind in regulating data that they could never catch up. It’s unimaginable that anyone could forever delete even the smallest amount of data. It is also extremely useful for doing good things like cracking cold cases and repurposing drugs. The Stone Age redefined would be a country didn’t make use of the data in world where everyone else does. It’s concerning to me because human history (data, see how I did that?) doesn’t inspire a responsible outcome with this incredible power. Still, we must or face a very bleak future.
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