[ldivens]

Mandating vaccines is un-American. My body my choice

[toeser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

So glad there is digital proof of vaccination in the works. Paper proof is so easily forged and is basically worthless.

I want to see vaccination mandated for public transportation, getting on cruise ships, entrance to theme parks, entrance to sporting events, entrance to concerts and so much more. The list is endless. Maybe some of you anti-vaxers will change your minds about getting the shot.

Microsoft, Salesforce and Oracle working on Covid vaccination passport

"Paper proof is so easily forged and is basically worthless."

Except I am going to have to be able to use my paper proof to get my digital proof.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

"Ihre papieren bitte. You vill comply."

Let us hope this never happens here.

It may have already been close. And if it comes back, then no one will worry about a little detail like proper CV vaccine identification to get on a cruise ship. Be careful if you worry about the trees and do not worry about the forrest.

[Byte1]

No thanks. In THIS FREE COUNTRY we do not believe in gov. tyranny. Worry about yourself, not everyone else.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Wow!! You are the narrow-minded. No one is saying you have to get a vaccine. But if you are going to any public event, or even private event, you better have had the shot...otherwise..dont come....now, is that so difficult to get thru your head?

On the other hand, if you are scared of someone else that may or may not be vaccinated, then YOU stay home.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by bruce213

It may come down to economics, I'm sure we'll see businesses advertising "All staff covid vaccinated" or your up for a promotion and the other leading contender is vaccinated. All things I'm going to pick the vaccinated hygienist over the non-vaccinated.

Interesting. I have not seen one store with a sign that said that any of their staff were vaccinated against the FLU or any disease. NOT even in all those "other" countries I have lived in or traveled to.

[JustRita]

This is not about vaccinations. You will never be able to dictate that the world keep you safe. If you cruise, you will have many people working on that ship that are from other countries with different standards. You will also have people who may have been vaccinated and capable of carrying the virus. You may also have people that were legally exempt from vaccination, but the ADA will not allow that they be excluded. There have always been environmental risks. There will always be risks to living. You take one every time you get in your car.

My advice is that you always look to your own life goals. Do you prioritize quantity or quality. You will die. You cannot control the world. Make your decisions based on how they effect you.

[Byte1]

Mandated and documented is a hilarious and foolish idea. First off, we do not yet know how long this vaccine lasts as to the effectiveness. I've been told by medical professionals that they believe it will be about like the flu shot and only last a "season." I can see it now, "mam, I am going to have to issue you a citation as your shot has expired."
Some folks have way too much time on their hands, but not enough time or intelligence to reason something out. Our gov is already out of control and needs to be reigned back.
Sorry, but if you are too afraid of others to leave your home, then stay home...period.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by stanley

Next a chip..
Be careful what you wish for!

Or tattoo at least with tattoos they won’t have ability to monitor or spy.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by JustRita

This is not about vaccinations. You will never be able to dictate that the world keep you safe. If you cruise, you will have many people working on that ship that are from other countries with different standards. You will also have people who may have been vaccinated and capable of carrying the virus. You may also have people that were legally exempt from vaccination, but the ADA will not allow that they be excluded. There have always been environmental risks. There will always be risks to living. You take one every time you get in your car.

My advice is that you always look to your own life goals. Do you prioritize quantity or quality. You will die. You cannot control the world. Make your decisions based on how they effect you.

Cruises are way done the list of priorities, it personal choice, cruise ship are virus nursery anyway.

[Beyond The Wall]

Amazing how easily we give up our liberty. Started with 9/11 and has stopped

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

What difference does it make? When vaccination is mandated (and I truly believe it will be) to live our lives like we used to, we will all need proof of vaccination. As I said in my OP, there are so many activities that should mandate vaccination. That is the difference when you are vaccinated....to be able to live life normally again. No proof of vaccination? People will be restricted with what they can do in life. For example.....like to travel? You need to be vaccinated. Like to go to concerts or sporting events? You need to be vaccinated.

This is what I wish for.

That is an idealistic hope because you would need a bubble around the US. And a bubble around a ship cruise. And a bubble around all the cruisers as they went ashore. What would be the purpose of a cruise if you did NOT mingle with the locals? Maybe you could go to Antarctica without any stops and just look out at the glaciers? As long as the whole world is NOT vaccinated, when you travel, the risk would be high that you encounter some CV-positive people. Right now the medical experts are PREDICTING (?) that getting vaccinated completely protects you from CV. That can only be validated by time passing after most people in the US have been vaccinated and we have herd immunity. So to me, digital identification does not seem to matter much. There are other variables and some not yet known!

[PJackpot]

I’d much rather see you restricted out of your own fear. However, that being said, states probably could get away with mandating a vaccine shot. Personally, I have no intention of getting the vaccine shot until enough time has gone by that I feel confident in its level of efficacy and that there are no long term side effects. Nothing so far has proven to be effective in slowing the spread of this virus, not masks, not social distancing...nothing, and I am not convinced this vaccine will either. Infections continues to rise regardless, yet mortality rates continue to decline, suggesting to me herd immunity may be the reason. Thanks, but I’ll accept the risk and forgo the shot.

[tvmurray]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

What difference does it make? When vaccination is mandated (and I truly believe it will be) to live our lives like we used to, we will all need proof of vaccination. As I said in my OP, there are so many activities that should mandate vaccination. That is the difference when you are vaccinated....to be able to live life normally again. No proof of vaccination? People will be restricted with what they can do in life. For example.....like to travel? You need to be vaccinated. Like to go to concerts or sporting events? You need to be vaccinated.

This is what I wish for.

Sounds like you are wishing for "Mark of the beast". I wish for a free America.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Scott O

So your telling us, especially those of us who have worked to provide public services to everyone during this entire time without fear of going to work and have stayed healthy, that we all need to conform to your fears and if we don’t we are no longer allowed to live our lives in freedom, I don’t think so. If you live in fear it’s your own place...if your getting the so called vaccines to protect yourself, then you really don’t believe it provides protection if you say all need it to protect you...

Service workers have gone to work WEARING MASKS, keeping their distance as much as feasible and washing their hands more than ever before. This is NOT living a normal life if you ask me. Also, I do not believe for one moment that most people have not feared going to work and dealing with the general public. An individual would have to be very uninformed to do that.