[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Spot on Tal. Information is available to check accuracy on almost everything, and it is easy to determine who is lying and who is tellng the truth.....IF you wish to.

I do take into account the person giving out the information's character and reputation. If the leopard has had spots most of its life those will remain no matter how many times that leopard says it has no spots.

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Even though I'm sure I'm not Carnack, here goes something.
The Facts About Fact-Checkers | The Heritage Foundation
Who Is Fact Checking The Media Fact Checkers?
SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research

More to follow I'm sure

Steve

Wikipedia says The Heritage Foundation is a Conservative Think Tank. And Investors Business Daily is also listed as conservative partisan. Here is a link that talks about legitimate fact checkers:The 6 Best Political Fact-Checking Sites on the Internet

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Wikipedia says The Heritage Foundation is a Conservative Think Tank. And Investors Business Daily is also listed as conservative partisan. Here is a link that talks about legitimate fact checkers:The 6 Best Political Fact-Checking Sites on the Internet

Round and round we go.....where it stops, nobody knows.
Steve

[kayak]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

I did search and this is what Media fact check says about Patriot Post:
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.

In other words, it is a biased news source, not to be trusted.

So you found a biased source that say the Patriot Post is biased. Can't be trusted. End of story. It's not hard to find someone to agree with your disagreement.
The real question is about the truth. Their reporting is truthful and it is my most trusted source of news. Highly recommended.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by kayak

So you found a biased source that say the Patriot Post is biased. Can't be trusted. End of story. It's not hard to find someone to agree with your disagreement.
The real question is about the truth. Their reporting is truthful and it is my most trusted source of news. Highly recommended.

Do you know the REAL NAME of any of the writers on this site ?

This used to be called the "Federalist" and you will not be able to find any true or real names of anyone who writes there, which indicates something, but if you wont give your name or use fraud names...well I am out

[Madelaine Amee]

This thread is becoming old, real old and very tiresome. All it proves is that it is impossible to change a mind that is made up! My truth, your truth, who knows, it basically all comes down to what a person wants to believe is true!

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Madelaine [B

Amee[/B];1691991]This thread is becoming old, real old and very tiresome. All it proves is that it is impossible to change a mind that is made up! My truth, your truth, who knows, it basically all comes down to what a person wants to believe is true!

One thing from this corner and your point is valid.

WE, the people who live in this country ned to demand the truth, stop tolerating lying from any news source, AND our leaders.

Then we have no need for factcheckers, etc.

Do not accept lying any longer. and think about we go through this. The liars are using us...the method of dividing the country is working because we allow it. We are now in an arena here partisan truth extending has been taken to a new level of outright deceit.

Put blame where it belongs, and put country before party. We are the tools being used for our own destruction..

[Velvet]

In my opinion, we will never agree. Even eyewitnesses sometimes disagree on the color of the car they saw. A victim and a bully will always see things from different perspectives. There are two or more sides to every story. A “hero” in one place is a “terrorist” somewhere else. The best we can do is try to see the same thing from others’ point of view.

[jklfairwin]

I can't speak about tv news in general, since the only one I occasionally watch is PBS, but most shows people watch are not news, they are opinion, Hannity, Maddow, etc. These, I believe are notoriously unreliable. The best news sources are still the major news services, NYT, WAPO, AP, BBC, etc, which actually have editors and standards, but again, one must be a critical reader.


Critical reading (or listening) is a skill that must be acquired and, unfortunately, it is not well taught in school, if taught at all. News is a competitive business, and there is always a push to be first with a story and honest mistakes frequently occur. The individual internet sites are again notoriously unreliable. Unnamed sources or unnamed high officials are always suspect. All sources and authors should always be checked for accuracy and bias.

But all this said, staying well informed can be time consuming and requires a lot of effort. Hard to find time with golf , pickleball, facebook, etc, but if democracy is to work, it is the duty of all citizens to stay informed.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Wikipedia says The Heritage Foundation is a Conservative Think Tank. And Investors Business Daily is also listed as conservative partisan. Here is a link that talks about legitimate fact checkers:The 6 Best Political Fact-Checking Sites on the Internet

I posted that same link a couple of times now, but there will always be those that prefer the sources...that meet only their own confirmation bias.


And it's best to look up something on at least a few of those highly-rated sites...so maybe the truth will sink in.


Facts matter.

[Nucky]

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I find it harder everyday to watch any news. I have lost my trust in most things they report. Is this just me?

Bay Kid, I don't believe I ever saw a Thread with so many Thank You's. Great job bringing up a Great question. I do believe your question boiled down to trust of news sources and wondering if it was just you who felt that way. I think you have received an array of outlooks and responses. I guess the way the news is reported has rubbed off on some of our valued posters and fellow Villagers. The same old garbage reheated and spewed and spun.

I would like to thank you. Your post has somewhat freed me from so much news. I was in a rut. I think balance is the thing that will make watching less painful. Not living this all day every day is a good thing for me and others.

Good Job Bay Kid!

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

but there will always be those that prefer the sources...that meet only their own confirmation bias.
Facts matter.

Exactly.

Steve

[Mumbles]

My guess is that we have been scrubbed over for too long by "Fake" news. A better term might be "Opinion News". I watch Fox and MSNBC and find that there are so many talking heads, I don't know who to believe. BUT, it's my job as a thinker to FIND OUT what the truth is by doing my own research of facts put forward. In the olden days-when I was in school-- our social studies teacher taught us to debate topics that were quite controversial and to FORGET about wanting to WIN the debate. It's not about winning; it's about learning how to THINK. If the House and Senate would follow that, we'd have SO much more cooperation, negotiation, and bills sent to the Prexy to sign for them to become law.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Mumbles

My guess is that we have been scrubbed over for too long by "Fake" news. A better term might be "Opinion News". I watch Fox and MSNBC and find that there are so many talking heads, I don't know who to believe. BUT, it's my job as a thinker to FIND OUT what the truth is by doing my own research of facts put forward. In the olden days-when I was in school-- our social studies teacher taught us to debate topics that were quite controversial and to FORGET about wanting to WIN the debate. It's not about winning; it's about learning how to THINK. If the House and Senate would follow that, we'd have SO much more cooperation, negotiation, and bills sent to the Prexy to sign for them to become law.

You make many good points. I am still in awe over having the bills passed by congress (gun legislation, etc) in February not even allowed to be discussed.

It is correct....it is not about winning, but about a Search for the truth . I know it's out there but so many have turned their back on truth. And as stated on this very forum directly to me...it has become all about winning.

When my country is involved TRUTH, TRUST easily triumphs over winning.

"Most" news organization, thankfully, are set up to insure truth Is printed. Ignoring it to win, as you state, is unpatriotic at best.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Exactly.

Steve

You left this part out of your quote of me.

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

And it's best to look up something on at least a few of those highly-rated sites...so maybe the truth will sink in.

Facts matter.