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Old 10-24-2019, 04:31 PM
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And to make matters even more difficult to separate real from fake news, the search engines can and do manipulate results according to our personal biases. Look for articles on "search engine manipulation effect". It will blow your mind. We all think in terms of "google" but there are other search engines to check and compare results whether on a news story or political candidate, etc. It's disturbing that you and I may search on the same term and come up with different results -- results that have been chosen for each of us based upon the search engine's algorhithms. Google may be your friend -- but it may just be the friend who is not honest when you ask does this dress make me look fat! Difficult and challenging times we live in.

Here are what some consider the most popular search engines in the world:

Google
Bing
Yahoo
Ask.com
AOL.com
Baidu
Wolframalpha
DuckDuckGo
Internet Archive
Yandex.ru

And there are many more. DuckDuckGo.com claims it is "The search engine that doesn't track you".
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I find it absolutely ridiculous that many people claim MSNBC is biased, but accept as fact everything on Fox News. On the other hand alleging Fox News is biased but everything on MSNBC is gospel is equally ludicrous. Those outlets have a blatant bias for the most part, should never be accepted as the home of virtue. I read the Kansas City Star and the Washington Post online. I also read some articles posted on MSN. There are so many online "news" outlets that cannot be trusted. I think the ONION is more reliable than many of them. The president admitted in an interview a couple years ago that he railed against the mainstream media so that wen they said bad things about him his supporters would not believe it. Dangerous stuff my friends!
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What I find absolutely stunning and staggering, are those that complain about a "leaning," while having no problem with outright and proven...blatant lying & hypocrisy.

Someone please help me try to understand...why is that?

Personally, and recognizing that honesty/ethics/integrity are out of fashion in some circles, I'll take a 'leaning' (in any direction)...over vicious, outrageous and purposely lying.
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I find it absolutely ridiculous that many people claim MSNBC is biased, but accept as fact everything on Fox News. On the other hand alleging Fox News is biased but everything on MSNBC is gospel is equally ludicrous. Those outlets have a blatant bias for the most part, should never be accepted as the home of virtue. I read the Kansas City Star and the Washington Post online. I also read some articles posted on MSN. There are so many online "news" outlets that cannot be trusted. I think the ONION is more reliable than many of them. The president admitted in an interview a couple years ago that he railed against the mainstream media so that wen they said bad things about him his supporters would not believe it.

Dangerous stuff my friends!

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What I find absolutely stunning and staggering, are those that complain about a "leaning," while having no problem with outright and proven...blatant lying & hypocrisy.

Someone please help me try to understand...why is that?

Personally, and recognizing that honesty/ethics/integrity are out of fashion in some circles, I'll take a 'leaning' (in any direction)...over vicious, outrageous and purposely lying.
We are still talking about trust in the news correct? Up until now it has been a fairly civil discussion without any condescending attitudes towards differing opinions on one's preferred "news" sources.
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I gave up on news in the 80s. My disillusionment occurred when Janet Cooke (Cook?) reported the story of the child heroin addict in the Post and repeated in the NYT. When it was shown to be fabricated and the Pulitzer had to be returned, I understood that news had to be taken with a grain of salt and fact checked as much as possible. Have felt that way ever since.

I don’t want a reporter’s opinions. I want the facts. I can make my own determinations from that. Today, I try to hear at least two sources of opposing sides before coming to any conclusions. Online, it is pretty much AP News for me. At least they tell me at the end of the article if a commentary or a news story. And I miss Al Jazeera.

As one of my favorite news reporters once said, “Journalists were never intended to be the cheerleaders of society, the conductors of applause, the sycophants. Tragically, that is their assigned role in authoritarian societies but not here — not yet.” Sadly, we have finally reached the not yet stage.
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Excellent post Mr. Franklin! Almost all, no probably closer to MOST, news stories have a basis in fact, but they are skewed by which political party is providing an analysis.

FACT CHECK EVERYTHING.
But who is in charge of Fact Check? Is that really true? I guess it is about the loss of trust.
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They are all guilty of questionable reporting/reading.
They have a tendency to look at an issue through a straw and then report as a general condition.

A riot on a street corner is focused on very tightly presenting only the mayhem within the scope of the straw.....as folks nearby go about their normal business.

If they were looking at the side of an elephant (as through the straw) the report would most likely focus on why the world is all of a sudden gray!!
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I’ve started to listen to the news channels mostly as comedy for our entertainment.

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PS....let us not forget what they do not report, for various reasons, as a factor in measuring the accuracy!!
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Daily Sun perfect example
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PS....let us not forget what they do not report, for various reasons, as a factor in measuring the accuracy!!
Absolutely and without a doubt !!!!!! Maybe one of the most important things to consider when choosing a news source.
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I hear it's fake.
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I gave up on news in the 80s. My disillusionment occurred when Janet Cooke (Cook?) reported the story of the child heroin addict in the Post and repeated in the NYT. When it was shown to be fabricated and the Pulitzer had to be returned, I understood that news had to be taken with a grain of salt and fact checked as much as possible. Have felt that way ever since.

I don’t want a reporter’s opinions. I want the facts. I can make my own determinations from that. Today, I try to hear at least two sources of opposing sides before coming to any conclusions. Online, it is pretty much AP News for me. At least they tell me at the end of the article if a commentary or a news story. And I miss Al Jazeera.

As one of my favorite news reporters once said, “Journalists were never intended to be the cheerleaders of society, the conductors of applause, the sycophants. Tragically, that is their assigned role in authoritarian societies but not here — not yet.” Sadly, we have finally reached the not yet stage.
Al Jazeera is funded by Qatar which is hardcore Islamist ...ie Muslim Brotherhood.
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