[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by fred53

I guess you check the lug nuts when you have your tires rotated or replaced...check that the oil filter is on properly and the oil pan plug is snug...No?!? They are all just as important as the oil level...strange....

Yes, I check EVERYTHING! Being Aircraft mechanic for 40 years NO STONES unturned when you have to look the Flight Crew in the Face before and after the Flight. Yes especially the Lug nuts cause the usually use air impact gun and OVER torque them. I loosen them with my big breaker bar and torque them to 85-95 foot pounds. That way when I have Flat I can get the lug nuts broken loose with dinky tire tool.

[Bonnevie]

I had a major service (30,000) miles. Shortly after I had a tire blow out on the Howard Franklin bridge in Tampa. When I went to get new tire, I was told all the tires were way overinflated...I don't know if that's what the mechanics do...put a lot of air in then go back and let some out...and they didn't do the second step....but it was very scary.

[Topspinmo]

Guy probably was putting air in it and got text. Lots of things could of happened with the tire, could of hit something weakening the liners, could of been defect that took that long to fail, could had way too much air pressure, got hot and failed. I'd guess and say 90 % of all tire blowout are due to under inflation! people just don't check air pressure in ther tires. I check tire pressure once month or it if looks low. winter temp changes will cause tires to lose small amount air pressure over time.

If the tires are hot the pressure will be higher. But, shouldn't be over say 3 or 4 pounds from room temps. so your tires was way over inflated,the got hot from driving which caused even more pressure and the tire failed. Again another reason to check work done by someone else.

[capecoralbill]

Me too. Have had new tires overinflated from the tire shop. I remember in the old days we had to install new tires with soapy water then strap them, then overinflate them to set the bead. When done we were supposed to recheck the air pressure to the correct PSI. Bill

[Villages PL]

I called The Tire Choice on Wedgewood Lane in The Villages and they said they always check the oil before the car leaves their shop. Their price is only about $2 more and I wouldn't have to drive all the way to Ocala.

But he said the price was for a certain type of oil and I'm not sure if that's what I need. I didn't write it down. I might have to go there in person to make sure.

Is The Tire Choice a good place to go for an oil change?

What place would you recommend?

Another issue is coupons: I had a dealer coupon for a $19.95 oil change. But by the time they added the disposal fee and taxes etc. it came to $26.41. Previously, when I used a $19.95 coupon it would only come to a total of about $20. So I learned that you have to read them carefully because they're not all the same.

The complaint issue: When you complain about service, is it a good or bad idea to ever go back to the same place again?

[F16 1UB]

Did I miss something? What "dealer in Ocala" over serviced your vehicle?

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by GordyM

This is why I do my own work (such as oil changes....) on both the car and golf cart in the garage at home. Easy and I know it is done right.

Me too including motorcycle.

Originally Posted by billethkid

I do not allow bulk oil in my vehicles.

I agree. I want to see that oil can's label. If I want full synthetic which I always do, then I only know that's what I got if I put it in myself.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by GordyM

This is why I do my own work (such as oil changes....) on both the car and golf cart in the garage at home. Easy and I know it is done right.

Is your vehicle under warranty? Especially if Asian? If so I hope you are saving the recipes with the date on them for your oil and filter, record in the maintenance logs, and keep exact historical records of what you did? If not most likely if you have oil related failure they might not honor the warranty. If out of warranty don't matter.

Basically the dealer manufacturer wants to do and control all maintenance while during the warranty period and of course after. Even though I can do most servicing. I don't while the vehicle under warranty in case there major problem.
First thing they going to scream unaurthized maintenance done which void the warranty.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Is your vehicle under warranty? Especially if Asian? If so I hope you are saving the recipes with the date on them for your oil and filter, record in the maintenance logs, and keep exact historical records of what you did? If not most likely if you have oil related failure they might not honor the warranty. If out of warranty don't matter.

Basically the dealer manufacturer wants to do and control all maintenance while during the warranty period and of course after. Even though I can do most servicing. I don't while the vehicle under warranty in case there major problem.
First thing they going to scream unaurthized maintenance done which void the warranty.

I keep meticulous records of mileage, dates and receipts for oil and filters installed. I've been doing the same thing for 46 years with no dealer problem........yet. Knock on wood.

[KeepingItReal]

Originally Posted by F16 1UB

Did I miss something? What "dealer in Ocala" over serviced your vehicle?

I don't think we are ever going to know so it would be risky to even believe it happened..

Really sounds unusual it happened 2 oil changes in a row... especially since apparently no one else had a problem in all that time at a dealership????

VPL what kind of car do you drive and we can take it from there?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

I don't think we are ever going to know so it would be risky to even believe it happened..

Really sounds unusual it happened 2 oil changes in a row... especially since apparently no one else had a problem in all that time at a dealership????

VPL what kind of car do you drive and we can take it from there?

Ask this question? how many actually follow up and check the level period, let alone before they drive off from the business? You maybe surprised. It's not just that dealership, seen this several times from different businesses. Rush and laziness is the only excuse I have for them.

[tuccillo]

Me three. It is actually very easy to do routine maintenance. The Miata has to go up on jack stands for an oil change but that only takes a few minutes. I mail order OEM filters and Wal-mart has very good prices on oil.

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Me too including motorcycle.



I agree. I want to see that oil can's label. If I want full synthetic which I always do, then I only know that's what I got if I put it in myself.

[tuccillo]

I have never had a warranty issue that could bring into question any maintenance work that I had done but a maintenance log (in my case, a piece of paper with dates and mileage) and receipts would be sufficient proof. There is no concept of "unauthorized maintenance". Either you have records to show the work was done (by whoever you choose, including yourself) or you don't. In the case of a dispute, the burden lies with the dealer to show that the issue is not caused by a defect. Google the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Is your vehicle under warranty? Especially if Asian? If so I hope you are saving the recipes with the date on them for your oil and filter, record in the maintenance logs, and keep exact historical records of what you did? If not most likely if you have oil related failure they might not honor the warranty. If out of warranty don't matter.

Basically the dealer manufacturer wants to do and control all maintenance while during the warranty period and of course after. Even though I can do most servicing. I don't while the vehicle under warranty in case there major problem.
First thing they going to scream unaurthized maintenance done which void the warranty.

[Villages PL]

I keep good records too. I keep all the receipts and enter everything into a journal for easy review of what was done and when it was done. My car is now a little over 3 years old and only has about 7,000 miles. Despite the overfilling, there's no sign of engine damage, as far as I can tell.

The engine light never went on, it never overheated and it's not burning oil.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

I keep good records too. I keep all the receipts and enter everything into a journal for easy review of what was done and when it was done. My car is now a little over 3 years old and only has about 7,000 miles. Despite the overfilling, there's no sign of engine damage, as far as I can tell.

The engine light never went on, it never overheated and it's not burning oil.

VPL - just FYI, if you are having the car serviced where you purchased it, or at a dealer, the dealer's computer system likely has all the information you are maintaining by hand. And they should provide it to you should you ever need it

From prior discussions I suspect you don't have a smart phone, but I can use my phone to access the maintenance records of our cars. This can be pretty handy at times

I'm glad your car had no damage.