[The Village Girl]

Originally Posted by BostonCelt

I've never seen the show...and probably won't....so I don't know....but what if they're raising good, happy, healthy future productive members of society, should we hang them anyway? Or just stay with judgmental namecalling?

Just curious...

Naw, I don't want to hang them. The judgmental name calling is enough for me!

So... this now leads me to the question... Do you think this is normal?

[BostonCelt]

Originally Posted by The Village Girl

Naw, I don't want to hang them. The judgmental name calling is enough for me!

So... this now leads me to the question... Do you think this is normal?

Define "normal". Not "average", but "normal". Is one kid normal? Four? None? 2.1?? Is marriage normal? Single? Two, three, four marriages? Divorce? Same sex marriage? Homosexuality? On and on...... Who get to say? And then what for the "abnormal"?

[The Village Girl]

Originally Posted by BostonCelt

Define "normal". Not "average", but "normal". Is one kid normal? Four? None? 2.1?? Is marriage normal? Single? Two, three, four marriages? Divorce? Same sex marriage? Homosexuality? On and on...... Who get to say? And then what for the "abnormal"?

Not fair! I answered your question and then asked a question. You didn't answer my question... You just skipped a step and asked! You can't skip a step! You have to play the game right!

Do you think 22 children is normal? 20 live and two dead. The doctors say she takes a risk trying to have more and most likely won't carry and still they continue to try to have them. Because, God is giving them to them as a blessing. She posted pictures of her dead baby on the internet. Normal or not?

Wait! You are right! Normal is not the right word. Substitute "normal" for "sane". Now, let's start again. Is she sane? I say NOT!

[BostonCelt]

Originally Posted by The Village Girl

Not fair!..... Now, let's start again. Is she sane? I say NOT!

LOL! "Sane"?? Ooooooh, nooooo....now we're ALL in trouble!! LOL

[The Village Girl]

Originally Posted by BostonCelt

LOL! "Sane"?? Ooooooh, nooooo....now we're ALL in trouble!! LOL

OK... right again!!!!

I agree with you that she isn't hurting anyone. I agree that, from what I can see, the children appear to be good kids. Even if one turns out to be an ax murderer... she has still beat the odds.

From what I have read they are paying for the children from money they make and take no assistance from the government. Except now they have a show.

For some strange reason I find this woman troubled? I question he mental health. I don't know what he thinks as she appears to be the spokesperson for the family.

Someone brought this up in another thread and then removed it for fear of "offending" and I thought/think it's a good topic.

To be honest, I think EVERYONE has made good points!

Do you think SHE is raising these children, or are the older children raising the younger children?

[ilovetv]

This seems like addictive behavior.

And t.v. and internet AND the money GREEDY producers keep on exploiting and exalting addictive behaviors, making it seem within the norm when it's risky, selfish and destructive.

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

This seems like addictive behavior.

And t.v. and internet AND the money GREEDY producers keep on exploiting and exalting addictive behaviors, making it seem within the norm when it's risky, selfish and destructive.

I am with you. This shows signs of OCD. Its like drinking, if you drink in moderation, it may even have beneficial aspects to it. Kids in moderation should be somewhere between 1 and 4. Just my humble opinion don't ya know

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by The Village Girl

Someone brought this up in another thread and then removed it for fear of "offending" and I thought/think it's a good topic.

I thought the title of the original post was offensive...not the Duggars or the topic itself.

Please...continue the conversation!

[BostonCelt]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

...Kids in moderation should be somewhere between 1 and 4.....

"...between 1 and 4...."

I forgot....is that "normal" or "sane"???

Personally, I think all kids, whether it's one or twenty, should be born at the age of 18 and immediately have to spend 4 years in the Army before being allowed in the house....

[BostonCelt]

Originally Posted by The Village Girl

....Do you think SHE is raising these children, or are the older children raising the younger children?

Don't know, don't care. Hell, I don't know half the things MY kids are doing, much less hers. And half the stuff I DO know about mine is none of my business, it seems...

Seriously, best I know the older kids seem to be the products of positive discipline so someone's been in charge. I'll bet it's been, and still is, Mom and Dad....

[The Village Girl]

[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

This seems like addictive behavior.

And t.v. and internet AND the money GREEDY producers keep on exploiting and exalting addictive behaviors, making it seem within the norm when it's risky, selfish and destructive.

Now that you mention it.... It does seem addictive. I've heard there are women who LOVE to have "babies". Maybe she is one of them.

I wonder if there is a 12 step program for this addiction.

Originally Posted by ceejay

I thought the title of the original post was offensive...not the Duggars or the topic itself.

Please...continue the conversation!

Of course ceejay. I did know that, and the title was questionable. But I did think this was a great "hot topic".

Originally Posted by BostonCelt

"...between 1 and 4...."

I forgot....is that "normal" or "sane"???

So you did raise kids!

Originally Posted by BostonCelt

Personally, I think all kids, whether it's one or twenty, should be born at the age of 18 and immediately have to spend 4 years in the Army before being allowed in the house....

OK... for me... 1 is too many. Did I say that outloud? Not to mention, I support retroactive abortion. If you can abort before they are born, I see no reason to stop there! Abort at 16!!!

Originally Posted by BostonCelt

Don't know, don't care. Hell, I don't know half the things MY kids are doing, much less hers. And half the stuff I DO know about mine is none of my business, it seems...

Seriously, best I know the older kids seem to be the products of positive discipline so someone's been in charge. I'll bet it's been, and still is, Mom and Dad....

Honestly, I think it becomes someone's business when they put it out to the world. If you want someone to "mind their own business" shouldn't you mind your own? By that I mean to not share it with the world?

Now, to on of my thoughts. If the older children are raising the younger children. What kind of a life do they have? Does it make them more responsible or do they miss their childhood? Wouldn't buying a dog do the same thing?

[The Village Girl]

I still think she's BATS@#T crazy!!!

[BostonCelt]

Not to mention, I support retroactive abortion.

Now, to on of my thoughts. If the older children are raising the younger children. What kind of a life do they have? Does it make them more responsible or do they miss their childhood? Wouldn't buying a dog do the same thing?[/QUOTE]

You're for retroactive abortion at 16....and repeatedly comparing having kids with having dogs....and you think it's your business to be concerned about the life of her kids because, as young adults, they help around the house with younger siblings??? Did I miss something?

[The Village Girl]

Originally Posted by BostonCelt

You're for retroactive abortion at 16....and repeatedly comparing having kids with having dogs....and you think it's your business to be concerned about the life of her kids because, as young adults, they help around the house with younger siblings??? Did I miss something?

When you put it THAT way it sound so tawdry!!!!

But... Yes!

OK... Yes to retroactive abortion!

One hand = 22 children Other hand = dog Yep, that's where my mind goes!

Actually, I'm not sure it's anyone's business! But they put it out there and like a rubber necker, we can't help but look! Keep in mind that I have never seen their "reality" TV show.

Helping around the house with young siblings and 20 children? That's where it could be other peoples business. How much do they have to "help" to make it work? My question is, how much do they have to "help"? Do they have a "normal" childhood?

BTW, I'm asking the questions around here!

[BostonCelt]

Originally Posted by The Village Girl

BTW, I'm asking the questions around here!

LOL! And two thumbs up for Honesty!!
Keep up the good work!