[janmcn]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

And Doctors Without Borders could advise on all of that.

The thing is this nurse was on the plane half way over the Atlantic when this advisory was signed and went into effect,

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

Yes, I am.
I was praying at the Syrian border of Israel in Sept watching terrorist bombs explode.
Does the distance of a few hours plane flight make you and your loved ones immune to terror and pestilence?
They can come here as easily as I went there.
Wake up, USA.

Now that's a Call to Action!

[cologal]

Originally Posted by billethkid

So is the issue inconvenience?
I did not know convenience was a factor in quarantines or volunteering!

There is no medical reason to quarantine, for 21 days, medical personnel returning from fighting this terrible disease. It is better to fight it in Africa than back here in the US. Now 3 governors have decided, against the advice of the medical experts, to politicize the issue.

A nurse without a fever and no symptoms has been treated, in her own words, as a criminal and will be held for 21 days.

Good luck finding medical personnel to risk their lives on the front lines only to return to a mandatory quarantine.

I for one hope that no one in NYC get sick and this treatment of medical heroes is called off.

[cologal]

Originally Posted by billethkid

And in today's society if she was quarantined in her house the interview woud have the same tone. Once again quarantines like being in a hospital are no fun....who said they were supposed to be.

Some of us remember what it was like to be quaranteened when someone got measels or mumps or a child hood disease. The big difference then and now? We knew it was for the good of everybody and there was no 24/7 sensationalizing by the media.

It should be noted that the quarantine is to ensure the that a deadly disease is not transmitted to others....three weeks inconvenience for the greater good. No big deal. No media huff and puff required. Just plain old COMMON SENSE!!

For the greater good in whose option? I suffered from being patted down since 9/11 twice a week just because I had an artificial knee "for the greater good" and never once did I have a bomb in my bra.... In my final 2 years of flying I travelled 140 miles round trip to have access to a scanner, instead of a metal detector, to avoid being patted down. And no one was 1 bit safer from my additional screening. So you might ask why I travelled so far.... because I was both physically and sexually abused as a child. To have a stranger pat me down was very difficult for me as you might expect....

It might be good for you....but for me it was terrifying.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by cologal

There is no medical reason to quarantine, for 21 days, medical personnel returning from fighting this terrible disease. It is better to fight it in Africa than back here in the US. Now 3 governors have decided, against the advice of the medical experts, to politicize the issue.



A nurse without a fever and no symptoms has been treated, in her own words, as a criminal and will be held for 21 days.



Good luck finding medical personnel to risk their lives on the front lines only to return to a mandatory quarantine.



I for one hope that no one in NYC get sick and this treatment of medical heroes is called off.

I'm sorry. But with all due respect I disagree. Quarantines have successfully been used for decades to prevent the spread of disease, I.e., tuberculosis, etc. Actually the period of quarantine should be longer since research has demonstrated that 21 days only covers 88% of those exposed.

[cologal]

Originally Posted by janmcn

MSF Nurse Held in Isolation in New Jersey | MSF USA


While Gov Cuomo has announced that patients under quarantine can be monitored at home, the MSF nurse is being held in New Jersey in isolation in an unheated tent in a parking lot with paper scrubs and a portable toilet, and no shower.

This is ridiculous...... she should get a lawyer and sue the state of New Jersey!!!!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by cologal

There is no medical reason to quarantine, for 21 days, medical personnel returning from fighting this terrible disease. It is better to fight it in Africa than back here in the US. Now 3 governors have decided, against the advice of the medical experts, to politicize the issue.

A nurse without a fever and no symptoms has been treated, in her own words, as a criminal and will be held for 21 days.

Good luck finding medical personnel to risk their lives on the front lines only to return to a mandatory quarantine.

I for one hope that no one in NYC get sick and this treatment of medical heroes is called off.

I THINK...that three governors have decided to medicalize a political issue.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I THINK...that three governors have decided to medicalize a political issue.

Absolutely correct.

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by janmcn

MSF Nurse Held in Isolation in New Jersey | MSF USA


While Gov Cuomo has announced that patients under quarantine can be monitored at home, the MSF nurse is being held in New Jersey in isolation in an unheated tent in a parking lot with paper scrubs and a portable toilet, and no shower.

That's not what this CNN report says:

"Kaci Hickox, a nurse under mandatory quarantine for Ebola monitoring in New Jersey, sent CNN this image of the tent where she is being isolated in a New Jersey Hospital on Sunday, October 26. Hospital officials told CNN the indoor tent is in a climate-controlled extended-care facility adjacent to the hospital."

This text shows up in the first still photo under the Story Highlights on the left side.

It does sound awful for her, but this says she does have heat and the tent is in a building.

Quarantined nurse slams state Ebola policy - CNN.com

[VT2TV]

IMHO, the very best thing that could be done is to CLOSE ALL BORDERS to non US citizens, period. All the prevention being done is not as effective as closing borders. There are way too many breaks in protocol, precautions, and treatment and screening is not consistent. Like someone posted, it would still be very easy for someone with ebola to slip through the cracks when entering the US through the many "screening areas" because of the lack of training, knowledge, and supplies needed to immediately quarantine an infected individual-assuming that they were even correctly identified. Without proper education, PROPER quarantine areas, and stopping the threat in general, we could be in for one of the worst health crisis our generation has ever seen. It could be likened to Ebola being 1 single match, and this country being covered with nothing but dry wood. And no, I am not being an alarmist, but this country needs to be pro-active to not letting this disease get out of control.

[sunnyatlast]

It's interesting how, on the same day NJ and NY governors decided to have the mandatory quarantine of returning workers from ebola hot zones, the Obama administration and CDC were considering the very same thing:

By David Martosko, Us Political Editor for MailOnline and Reuters

Published: 20:21 GMT, 24 October 2014 | Updated: 21:33 GMT, 24 October 2014

The Obama administration is considering imposing a forced quarantine on healthcare workers who return to the United States from the Ebola hot zone of West Africa, after a New York doctor who treated patients there tested positive for the virus on Thursday.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spokesman Tom Skinner told Reuters on Friday that a mandatory quarantine is one possible plan under discussion by officials from across the administration.

[cologal]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I THINK...that three governors have decided to medicalize a political issue.

This woman has NO symptoms and no temperature....why is she being held?

She is getting a lawyer

Quarantined Nurse Kaci Hickox Calls Her Treatment 'Inhumane', Criticizes Chris Christie

[JB in TV]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

It's interesting how, on the same day NJ and NY governors decided to have the mandatory quarantine of returning workers from ebola hot zones, the Obama administration and CDC were considering the very same thing:

By David Martosko, Us Political Editor for MailOnline and Reuters

Published: 20:21 GMT, 24 October 2014 | Updated: 21:33 GMT, 24 October 2014

The Obama administration is considering imposing a forced quarantine on healthcare workers who return to the United States from the Ebola hot zone of West Africa, after a New York doctor who treated patients there tested positive for the virus on Thursday.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spokesman Tom Skinner told Reuters on Friday that a mandatory quarantine is one possible plan under discussion by officials from across the administration.

Yeah, and now the White House is putting pressure on those states to end their quarantine.

White House Presses States To End Ebola Quarantine: Report

This white house doesn't like it when states do things they think should be done by the feds.

[cologal]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

That's not what this CNN report says:

"Kaci Hickox, a nurse under mandatory quarantine for Ebola monitoring in New Jersey, sent CNN this image of the tent where she is being isolated in a New Jersey Hospital on Sunday, October 26. Hospital officials told CNN the indoor tent is in a climate-controlled extended-care facility adjacent to the hospital."

This text shows up in the first still photo under the Story Highlights on the left side.

It does sound awful for her, but this says she does have heat and the tent is in a building.

Quarantined nurse slams state Ebola policy - CNN.com

But she has no symptoms... so why is she being held?

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by cologal

But she has no symptoms... so why is she being held?

Maybe because a fair number of ebola victims don't get fever:

Yet the largest study of the current outbreak found that in nearly 13% of "confirmed and probable" cases in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and elsewhere, those infected did not have fevers.

The study, sponsored by the World Health Organization and published online late last month by the New England Journal of Medicine, analyzed data on 3,343 confirmed and 667 probable cases of Ebola.

The finding that 87.1% of those infected exhibited fever — but 12.9% did not — illustrates the challenges confronting health authorities as they struggle to contain the epidemic.

Ebola research: Fever not a surefire sign of infection - LA Times