That's the other one... Teva is ramping up Zmapp.

Even though it was done as a photo op, do you honestly feel that Pres. Obama would have a hug with an Ebola recovered patient if there was any chance she was still infectious on the day she was released from the hospital?

Remember the picture posted by Gracie - if there was any remote possibility that could happen to the President, I am sure he would not take the risk.

It is interesting to me that all three of the major news channels seem to be saying the same thing. Even those who ask "experts" thinking they will say it is "no big deal" are a bit surprised that the experts think it is indeed a big deal.

This is one hellish disease. No concrete cure and no way to prevent it other than containment. As I said before, Thank heavens it has gone no further and hope it will not go further, but I am relieved that three states have made quarantine mandatory for health care workers who dealt with Ebola and are returning to this country. It is a virus, with no agenda, no feelings no plan. It does what it does, it enters an organism and causes hemorrhage in all tissues. And it kills.

I didn't see anybody claiming that Miss Pham wasn't really over this disease or that she might still be contagious.

I thought the big hug picture of the president hugging her was wonderful, even though it probably was mostly a photo-op to further promote the message that 'there's nothing to worry about'.

Nina Pham certainly deserves to share a triumphant moment with the president and she'll remember it all her life. Maybe pictures of the triumphant moments like that will get her thru flashbacks from post-traumatic stress disorder she could have, after all these weeks of fleeing from the invisible killer that was chasing her…..while "experts" and armchair epidemiologists keep claiming it's just "hysteria" over nothing.

Yes, I honestly do. Taking unreasonable risks? Yes indeed.

May I correct the highlighted portion above?
What and when he does anything it is to further promote Obama, only and always!

NJ, NY, and Illinois have put a 21 day quarantine on returning workers who have been exposed to the virus. Good luck to getting future volunteers to aid those stricken countries.

So is the issue inconvenience?
I did not know convenience was a factor in quarantines or volunteering!

There is no quarantine in VA or GA at this time, so exposed workers can still fly into Dulles or Atlanta without any delay and continue on their way.

The executive action taken by Gov Scott in FL doesn't call for a mandatory quarantine, but monitoring for all passengers arriving from one of the infected countries.

Here is an interesting interview with a quarantined nurse in New Jersey:

http://www.cnn.com//2014/10/26/healt...rse/index.html

It may get stricter after the election.

And in today's society if she was quarantined in her house the interview woud have the same tone. Once again quarantines like being in a hospital are no fun....who said they were supposed to be.

Some of us remember what it was like to be quaranteened when someone got measels or mumps or a child hood disease. The big difference then and now? We knew it was for the good of everybody and there was no 24/7 sensationalizing by the media.

It should be noted that the quarantine is to ensure the that a deadly disease is not transmitted to others....three weeks inconvenience for the greater good. No big deal. No media huff and puff required. Just plain old COMMON SENSE!!

"Quarantined nurse to CNN: 'My basic human rights' are being violated"

I say" Our basic human rights are being violated if she isn't quarantined".

I don't understand that people would say that this may keep people from volunteering to go to Africa to help people with Ebola.


I don't get that as an argument at all. I JUST don't understand. EXCEPT...she is very young and it is all about her.

When doctors volunteer to work for Doctors Without Borders for four or eight weeks, they leave their practice or place of employment for that period of time. A lot of times their families (especially their kids) don't want them to leave for that long. Adding three weeks to an eight week stint would make it out of the question for some who would volunteer.

To say that a young doctor who just returned from working with Ebola patients in Sierra Leone is "very young and it is all about her" is unimaginable.

She is a nurse. And apparently it isn't.

When a nurse or doctor volunteers to work for Doctors Without Borders they almost always end up in a part of the world that is war torn or disease ridden. I would doubt that person would be cast as selfish or all about themselves. Unimaginable is a good summation.

Well Chi-town, along with those glorious aspirations of helping the poor and sick comes the reality that part of the deal is to NOT carry their illness back to your family and city and state and country.

It is part of the reality of life. She was complaining about something that was part of her commitment. It sounded good but it was harder than she thought. THAT is the reality of medicine and the reality of life.

Well, this new law in NJ and NY didn't come about until a nurse from Dallas and a doctor now infected with ebola in NYC showed how people with top-tier educations and medical licenses "self-monitor" or "self quarantine" themselves by going on 4 subway lines, busiest international airports, 2-3 airline flights, (and the Frontier plane then went on 26 flights across the continent before Vinson was diagnosed), etc.

THEY decided they were not a potential contagious disease threat to others, but the doctor in NY certainly was wrong.

They and this nurse in NJ are not the ones who are supposed to be declaring themselves "ebola free" and not contagious before even being tested once and again within 72 hours.

Their individual "rights" to trot all over the place in NY, Newark, Dallas and Cleveland do not supersede the millions of people living and working in those huge metro areas!

I understand what you are saying GG. But living in a tent with a toilet that doesn't flush and wearing paper clothes could make one a bit testy. She probably had enough of that in Sierra Leone. I wish there were a quicker test to see if someone's infected.

I wish Doctors Without Borders had monitored a few days and then tested the returning workers THERE, twice and 72 hours apart, before letting them go on airliners thru Brussels, NY, Newark and Washington Dulles, subjecting two other continents to potential carriers of the virus!

I see your point clearly, and I TOO wish there was a quicker test to see if someone is harboring the virus.

Life moderates young idealistic behavior.

Whatever happened to the 200 plus residents of Ohio who were under quarantine after the nurse visited there? Have they been cleared yet? Have any of them developed the disease? Hopefully no snowbirds from Ohio will return to The Villages and start slobbering all over people.

What is plan B if Doctors Without Borders pulls their staff out of these West Africa countries?

Doctors Without Borders slams N.J.'s treatment of Ebola nurse | NJ.com


IMO, an airplane should be chartered to take this young nurse home as soon as she can safely be moved. When she became quarantined, she did not give up her right to free speech. The governor did not think this event was serious enough to stick around NJ.

In Ohio they are still under watch..http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/i...o_3_quara.html


As for YOUR wonderful young nurse....Now she has used her right to "lawyer up".

BTW....Nigeria, who has had a much bigger problem with Ebola has a similar problem, a nurse breaking quarantine.

This is how they handled it.

http://saharareporters.com/2014/08/1...cial-ambulance


AN OUNCE of PREVENTION is worth a pound of CURE.
It is better to be safe than sorry.

I am hoping, literally PRAYING for all the people who think we are being way too over cautious to be RIGHT.

Last year I had an outbreak of shingles on the back of my head and was taken out of work for two weeks so I would not be a health threat to the patients in my care and coworkers and was glad to comply with this restriction. This nurse who provided direct care to likely large numbers of ebola patients and her having an issue with being quarantined is beyond belief to this nurse.

However, I assume you were quarantined in the comfort of your own home and had not just returned from an exhausting volunteer service in Africa.
Not saying if the quarantine of this nurse is right or wrong but can certainly understand her distress and think she should be thanked for her service and maybe shown some compassion.

Doctors Without Borders, having Total Net Assets of $166,000,000 as a 501c3 organization according to their financial statements, can surely afford to test these workers and provide decent R&R or vacation style lodging for them IN Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea, "self quarantining" them in relaxation and relative comfort as a way of saying Thank You for their service.

And surely these host countries could provide some R&R type lodging for these workers for 2-3 weeks of testing and quarantine before getting onto intercontinental, international flights into 2 more continents, as a way of saying Thank You for their free service to the nation.

But that wouldn't make headlines on HuffPo, Drudge, MSNBC, etc.

https://www.doctorswithoutborders.or...l_20140429.pdf

Yes, I am.
I was praying at the Syrian border of Israel in Sept watching terrorist bombs explode.
Does the distance of a few hours plane flight make you and your loved ones immune to terror and pestilence?
They can come here as easily as I went there.
Wake up, USA.

If this nurse's return trip had been booked through Atlanta or Dulles (as Thomas Duncan was) she would be home sleeping in her own bed now. There is no mandatory quarantine in VA or GA, or in Texas where this all started. Just a thought.

MSF Nurse Held in Isolation in New Jersey | MSF USA


While Gov Cuomo has announced that patients under quarantine can be monitored at home, the MSF nurse is being held in New Jersey in isolation in an unheated tent in a parking lot with paper scrubs and a portable toilet, and no shower.

And Doctors Without Borders could advise on all of that.

The thing is this nurse was on the plane half way over the Atlantic when this advisory was signed and went into effect,

Now that's a Call to Action!

There is no medical reason to quarantine, for 21 days, medical personnel returning from fighting this terrible disease. It is better to fight it in Africa than back here in the US. Now 3 governors have decided, against the advice of the medical experts, to politicize the issue.

A nurse without a fever and no symptoms has been treated, in her own words, as a criminal and will be held for 21 days.

Good luck finding medical personnel to risk their lives on the front lines only to return to a mandatory quarantine.

I for one hope that no one in NYC get sick and this treatment of medical heroes is called off.

For the greater good in whose option? I suffered from being patted down since 9/11 twice a week just because I had an artificial knee "for the greater good" and never once did I have a bomb in my bra.... In my final 2 years of flying I travelled 140 miles round trip to have access to a scanner, instead of a metal detector, to avoid being patted down. And no one was 1 bit safer from my additional screening. So you might ask why I travelled so far.... because I was both physically and sexually abused as a child. To have a stranger pat me down was very difficult for me as you might expect....

It might be good for you....but for me it was terrifying.

I'm sorry. But with all due respect I disagree. Quarantines have successfully been used for decades to prevent the spread of disease, I.e., tuberculosis, etc. Actually the period of quarantine should be longer since research has demonstrated that 21 days only covers 88% of those exposed.

This is ridiculous...... she should get a lawyer and sue the state of New Jersey!!!!

Absolutely correct.

That's not what this CNN report says:

"Kaci Hickox, a nurse under mandatory quarantine for Ebola monitoring in New Jersey, sent CNN this image of the tent where she is being isolated in a New Jersey Hospital on Sunday, October 26. Hospital officials told CNN the indoor tent is in a climate-controlled extended-care facility adjacent to the hospital."

This text shows up in the first still photo under the Story Highlights on the left side.

It does sound awful for her, but this says she does have heat and the tent is in a building.

Quarantined nurse slams state Ebola policy - CNN.com

IMHO, the very best thing that could be done is to CLOSE ALL BORDERS to non US citizens, period. All the prevention being done is not as effective as closing borders. There are way too many breaks in protocol, precautions, and treatment and screening is not consistent. Like someone posted, it would still be very easy for someone with ebola to slip through the cracks when entering the US through the many "screening areas" because of the lack of training, knowledge, and supplies needed to immediately quarantine an infected individual-assuming that they were even correctly identified. Without proper education, PROPER quarantine areas, and stopping the threat in general, we could be in for one of the worst health crisis our generation has ever seen. It could be likened to Ebola being 1 single match, and this country being covered with nothing but dry wood. And no, I am not being an alarmist, but this country needs to be pro-active to not letting this disease get out of control.