Dr. tested positive for ebola at Beleview hospital NYC

As per the NY TIMES
Even as the authorities worked to confirm that Mr. Spencer was infected with Ebola, it emerged that he traveled from Manhattan to Brooklyn on the subway on Wednesday night, when he went to a bowling alley, and then took a taxi home.

announcers on tv trying to stop a panic --- Nothing to worry about----Time to start to worry

Last night I heard the doctor who heads the infectious diseases section of CDC say you don't have anything to worry about unless you are a health care worker. Hmmmm. . . . . All those thousands of people dead and dying in West Africa aren't all health care workers, are they? We have to start challenging these people when they make stupid statements.

Because the virus is so deadly, if it had been me returning from taking care of patients with Ebola, out of an abundance of caution, I would not have been around anyone, particularly my fiance', until the incubation time had passed. There is no cure. There is no prevention, and the potential for epidemic is very valid.

If we cannot trust our trained medical people to act responsibly, we are in a mess.

And if anyone says anything about having their throat slit or getting sick....I will say something that gets deleted.

doctor said he imposed self quarantine -- nice job doc

please explain ????

I thought CDC MANDATED no travel bus public transportation after the Amber Vinson flight and then the Carnival Cruise incident. I guess he didn't get the memo.

I am sorry Gracie... there is a cure because there are people alive today that had Ebola. This doctor took his temperature twice a day since his return and reported the illness when his temp was only 100.3, which is a very low grade fever. They got him isolated quickly. He was NOT symptomatic when he was on the subway nor at the bowling alley. The person has to be SYMPTOMATIC to be able to transmit the disease.

This doctor did act responsibly...we should also remember that he went to West Africa to help with this deadly outbreak. How many of us would risk our lives to help given the risks?

The difference is those people were put into a 21 day isolation period but travelled anyway. This doctor was NOT in mandated isolation!! He did do follow the procedure for medical workers who return home by taking his temperature twice day and reported the fever when it was only 100.3.

Please don't bash our medical hero's.....

The doctor also had not returned to his job as an emergency room doctor at New York's Presbyterian Hospital during the ten day period since his return from Guinea.

He Should have been in mandated isolation in my opinion.

I am wondering if ALL the posters on this thread have had their flu shot for the 2014-15 flu season - and if those over 65 had the "high dosage" flu shot.

It would also be beneficial to make sure your pneumonia shot is up to date.

We are at a much higher chance of being infected with one of those than ebola.

I have had my flu shot!

Are you a medical professional? Expert in communicable diseases?

Do you check with your Villages' doctors to see if they have recently been in Western Africa, when making an appointment? That might be a good idea.

Nina Pham, RN, has been declared free of the Ebola virus and will be released from the hospital today. This according to the National Institute of Health, where she has been undergoing treatment.

Amber Vincent, RN, was cured of the disease earlier this week, according to Emory University Hospital.

Ashoka Mukpo, the freelance photojournalist employed by NBC, has also been cured and released from the hospital in Nebraska.

All good news, and i am thankful. Early dx and tx. Happy to know this.

Obama Meets With Dallas Nurse Cured Of Ebola (PHOTOS)


Here's a link to a photo taken just a short time ago of Nina Pham meeting with President Obama at the White House right after her release from the National Institute of Health in Bethesda, MD. She looks very happy and very healthy.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/2...6pLid%3D551649

More photos of this happy, happy day for Nurse Nina Pham and her family and the staff who treated her at NIH, as well as the staff at her hospital in Dallas. Plus her dog is doing well and will certainly be happy to see Nina again.

[QUOTE=cologal;957432]The difference is those people were put into a 21 day isolation period but travelled anyway. This doctor was NOT in mandated isolation!! He did do follow the procedure for medical workers who return home by taking his temperature twice day and reported the fever when it was only 100.3.

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He stopped being a hero to ME when he didn't keep himself away from others. If his fiancé' was YOUR daughter, I would think you would be quite nervous. I NEVER expect anyone else to do something that I wouldn't do myself.

THERE is no cure, as I said. Apparently the body can fight it off, but only in a very small percentage of cases. Keeping the body hydrated is just about the only support that can be given, along with steroids. That isn't a medical cure, it is plain old cussed luck.

And Sandtrap, yes, I. like most people, have my flu shot, my pneumonia shot and my shot for Herpes Zoster. Those kinds of things are not deadly to the overwhelming percentage of the population even if contracted.

The New England Journal of Medicine says that Ebola is deadly in 70 to 90 percentage of cases.

So YES Sandtrap, at this time YOU are in no danger, but the potential for danger is there. I hope you win and you can gloat. I so hope it.

What mis-information and what experts and what "usual suspects", bimmertl? WHAT DO YOU MEAN????





Eight days ago this from the
New England Journal of Medicine.
OCTOBER 16,2014
Ebola Virus Disease in West Africa — The First 9 Months of the Epidemic and Forward Projections

WHO Ebola Response Team
N Engl J Med 2014; 371:1481-1495October 16, 2014DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa1411100
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Background

On March 23, 2014, the World Health Organization (WHO) was notified of an outbreak of Ebola virus disease (EVD) in Guinea. On August 8, the WHO declared the epidemic to be a “public health emergency of international concern.”
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Methods

By September 14, 2014, a total of 4507 probable and confirmed cases, including 2296 deaths from EVD (Zaire species) had been reported from five countries in West Africa — Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal, and Sierra Leone. We analyzed a detailed subset of data on 3343 confirmed and 667 probable Ebola cases collected in Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone as of September 14.
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Results

The majority of patients are 15 to 44 years of age (49.9% male), and we estimate that the case fatality rate is 70.8% (95% confidence interval [CI], 69 to 73) among persons with known clinical outcome of infection. The course of infection, including signs and symptoms, incubation period (11.4 days), and serial interval (15.3 days), is similar to that reported in previous outbreaks of EVD. On the basis of the initial periods of exponential growth, the estimated basic reproduction numbers (R0 ) are 1.71 (95% CI, 1.44 to 2.01) for Guinea, 1.83 (95% CI, 1.72 to 1.94) for Liberia, and 2.02 (95% CI, 1.79 to 2.26) for Sierra Leone. The estimated current reproduction numbers (R) are 1.81 (95% CI, 1.60 to 2.03) for Guinea, 1.51 (95% CI, 1.41 to 1.60) for Liberia, and 1.38 (95% CI, 1.27 to 1.51) for Sierra Leone; the corresponding doubling times are 15.7 days (95% CI, 12.9 to 20.3) for Guinea, 23.6 days (95% CI, 20.2 to 28.2) for Liberia, and 30.2 days (95% CI, 23.6 to 42.3) for Sierra Leone. Assuming no change in the control measures for this epidemic, by November 2, 2014, the cumulative reported numbers of confirmed and probable cases are predicted to be 5740 in Guinea, 9890 in Liberia, and 5000 in Sierra Leone, exceeding 20,000 in total.
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Conclusions

These data indicate that without drastic improvements in control measures, the numbers of cases of and deaths from EVD are expected to continue increasing from hundreds to thousands per week in the coming months.
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I wonder who she would be thing of hee hee

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Ebola-Exposed Fliers to Be Quarantined by New York, New Jersey - Bloomberg

New York and New Jersey will quarantine any arriving passengers who had direct contact with Ebola patients. This announcement was made today by the governors of these states. The quarantine will last 21 days. Not too many other details in this Bloomberg View article.

That seems like the safe thing to do. Kudos to them.

It says this:

"Others who travel from the region and haven’t had direct contact with virus patients will be actively monitored and quarantined only if necessary, they said."

So, just like Duncan (RIP), they can lie and say they didn't have any direct contact with virus patients.

The only way to know where these travelers have been before leaving the African country is to make them wear a GPS ankle bracelet for 3 weeks before getting onto the plane.

In fact, everybody coming into this country from the afflicted countries should wear a monitored ankle bracelet, since both a licensed RN and the dr. in NY--highly educated and intelligent people--didn't think it posed a problem to get onto the plane flights and 4 subway lines in NYC, and more.

People are going to lie rather than be confined for 3 weeks.

All good ideas. Have you forwarded these suggestions to anyone who could put them into action?

Another arrival in Newark has shown symptoms of Ebola tonight.

This article says the Newark patient was admitted to University Hospital in Newark.

Now. I'm just a citizen with a bachelor's degree.

But I don't see why they didn't take her over to Bellevue Hospital where the infected doctor already is a patient, so they contaminate ONE major hospital, materials, waste disposal systems and staff, instead of two.

Govs Cuomo and Christie are together on this and both have said it straight:

Cuomo: "Voluntary quarantine? NO! It's almost an oxymoron….."

Newark Passenger Who Worked With Ebola Patients Develops Fever

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Gracie.....

We all due respect there is a new drug called ZMAPP, I believe that all of the US patients have been given that drug and all 3 survived. In addition the blood of a person who has survived provides needed antibodies. I also read that women who have been cured are now serving as nurses to children infected as these people cannot be reinfected.

US requests production plans for Ebola drug ZMapp | Fox News

As for the doctor I believe he did follow the guidelines for medical personnel returning from that area. If this my daughter I would not be worried because this man was not symptomatic. He took his temp twice a day and reported the fever at 100.3.

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AND how about the "limbo" time between the temperature taking when the fever starts beginning to rise and the little varmints begin to grow and come to the mucosa..... You see I have been a mother and I know how to worry.

A person can become cured by surviving the virus but there is not at this time a medication that can be called a cure. Blood transfusions from people that survive have been effective and zmapp is being used but has not been in a clinical trial.
ZMapp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If it were my daughter, I would be terribly worried. And a man can have the live Evola virus in semen for up to six weeks after his blood is testing free of the virus. There is so much unknown about this disease.

We are talking about a virus here, not an attitude. Any person with common sense would be in deadly fear of that virus.

Here's more on ZMAPP. They ran out of it in August, so I doubt nurses Pham and Vinson received it.

This article shows the painstaking, slow process of making it, and they emphasize that no clinical trials have been done on it to know if any person actually benefits from it. They don't know if it helped Dr. Brantley or not, as he got it on the 9th day. They're working on it……..

Ebola 'Secret Serum': Small Biopharma, The Army, And Big Tobacco - Forbes

and after about a million posts on this subject and tons of hysteria, more people have been married by Kim Kardeshian than have died from ebola in the US. Let the flaming begin.....

Thank God.

http://thewestsidestory.net/wp-conte...bola-Virus.jpg

And twice as many people died of gunshot wounds this month in The Villages than have died of Ebola in the entire US.

Gunshot death is not contagious by being in close contact with the public, and gunshot wounds are not fatal in 70-90% of cases.

Diverting attention away from a wildly mutating, heinous suffering-causing virus with no cure, to point at gun ownership in TV and that agenda is just pathetic.

[QUOTE=sunnyatlast;958148]Gunshot death is not contagious by being in close contact with the public, and gunshot wounds are not fatal in 70-90% of cases.

Diverting attention away from a wildly mutating, heinous suffering-causing virus with no cure, to point at gun ownership in TV and that agenda is just pathetic.

That's not the point he was making. That was the point you wanted to hear him making.

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 958148) Gunshot death is not contagious by being in close contact with the public, and gunshot wounds are not fatal in 70-90% of cases.

Umm.. HE is a she.

The Ebola.com web domain just sold for over $200,000.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-ebola...849257029.html

A man shot his wife in the back because she wanted a divorce. Coward. The previous post is only a statement of fact!!!

Ebola is three syllables and Obama is three syllables. Why hasn't the lame stream media pointed that out yet? (Please imagine smiley emoticon here).