[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

[I]

You remember him, no? He's one of yours.

Lady Randolph Churchill - Wikipedia.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Instead of picking the WORST of socialistic countries which have a multitude of problems that can't be solved by ANY type of government. Instead, look to Sweden and Finland for the benefits of socialism. The problem is that in the US, the word socialism has taken on such a negative meaning. It becomes connected with communism, which then equates to enemies that the US has fought wars with.

So what happened with England when the govt owned much of the economy.

Not so good and as a result the govt made the economy capitalistic again

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I Instead, look to Sweden and Finland for the benefits of socialism. .

Not Socialism countries.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Cuervo

The thing is we are producing more oil today than ever before and there will be a slow progression to get away from fossil fuels. That will not be at the expense of being subservient to foreign oil, the target is to replace the fuel we consume with clean replenishable.

As far as these people who say we have to replace gas vehicles to save the planet are fools, what they should be saying is that we have an undeniable history of humans polluting our air, water and soil and we have to stop before this earth is uninhabitable.

As George Carlin pointed out when the earth is tired of us it will just shake us off like flees and the planet will be here long after we're gone.

Funny how oil companies make more money when crud oil sky high. Now who what causes oil to go sky high? Oil companies like it when crud oil goes way up. They make more money on gallon of gas than federal state governments.

As far as George Carlin he had no idea like rest of us. He just made money off jokes like all comedians.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Are there any countries that are 100% Capitalist or 100% Socialist? While they have aspects of both, just like us, they seem to have more social programs than we do. Maybe that's why they are happier.

I sure the majority of population happy with gun to here heads

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I sure the majority of population happy with gun to here heads

Please see post #21

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Are there any countries that are 100% Capitalist or 100% Socialist? While they have aspects of both, just like us, they seem to have more social programs than we do. Maybe that's why they are happier.

Yep, free lunches.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Instead of picking the WORST of socialistic countries which have a multitude of problems that can't be solved by ANY type of government. Instead, look to Sweden and Finland for the benefits of socialism. The problem is that in the US, the word socialism has taken on such a negative meaning. It becomes connected with communism, which then equates to enemies that the US has fought wars with.

Neither of those countries are "socialist"...

They are also at the top of the list for the consumption of "anti-depressants"...

what country consumes highest amount of antidepressants - Google Search

Here is our list of the 20 countries with most antidepressant users in the world.
Norway. ...
Finland. ...
Italy. ...
Sweden. ...
Austria. Annual Sales Per Capita (2020): $9.70. ...
Luxembourg. Annual Sales Per Capita (2021): $9.70. ...
Germany. Annual Sales Per Capita (2020): $9.80. ...
Ireland. Annual Sales Per Capita (2020): $10.90.

Maybe that is why they are so "happy"...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Funny how oil companies make more money when crud oil sky high. Now who what causes oil to go sky high? Oil companies like it when crud oil goes way up. They make more money on gallon of gas than federal state governments.

As far as George Carlin he had no idea like rest of us. He just made money off jokes like all comedians.

"Exxon's “downstream” earnings — the money it makes selling gasoline and other refined petroleum products — run about 7 or 8 cents a gallon"...

how much do oil companies make on a gallon of gas - Google Search

Government taxes are 3-5 Xs that amount...

Gas Taxes and What You Need to Know

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by MorTech

With central banking you never run out of other peoples money....A money counterfeiter never goes broke.
Socialism fails when there is nothing left to steal. This is the lesson of the USSR/Weimar Germany...Hyperinflation.

USSR. A dictatorship that was socialist in name only. We called them "commies" (communists), but communism and socialism are not the same thing.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by MorTech

Energy is the primary input cost to everything that is produced. There is nothing more important than cheap energy to the well-being of humanity. JD Rockefeller and Enrico Fermi should be worshipped (as well as Fritz Haber).

The USA buys heavy sour from Venezuela and Russia to mix with the light sweet shale oil in refineries that have not been modified for light sweet shale oil.

Standard Oil was a monopoly that had to be broken up by SCOTUS.

Fermi and more: Einstein , Curie, Rutherford, Planck, Niels Bohr, Roentgen

The Holy Grail will be fusion.

Too bad they didn't name a sub atomic particle or an isotope after Rutherford. Too many syllables I guess.
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[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by ithos

Too bad they didn't name a sub atomic particle or an isotope after Rutherford. Too many syllables I guess.
_

Looks like they *did* let him name the proton. :-)

[Rocksnap]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That is a good post! Americans live under the illusion that we are the best at EVERYTHING. So we do NOT try to learn anything from other counties. Just as an example, the US is the only major country that does NOT have socialized medicine. Actually, the V. A. could be expanded to include all people and that would give us National Healthcare like ALL the other major countries. Medical insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies are set up to make EXCESSIVE profits.
......The bottom line is that we should look at other countries and be willing to LEARN from them.

Canada & England both have socialist medicine. Neither is cracked up to what it’s supposed to be. Says many who needed care in those countries.
South Korea, on the other hand, does quite well. They don’t have socialist healthcare, but it’s cheap and good, for the most part.
Case in point. My daughter is a freelance graphic design artist. Makes great money, but no benefits.
It was cheaper for her to visit there for a few months to receive a some needed care, than it was for her here to pay out of pocket just for the care she needed. Now that’s crazy.

[Cuervo]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Funny how oil companies make more money when crud oil sky high. Now who what causes oil to go sky high? Oil companies like it when crud oil goes way up. They make more money on gallon of gas than federal state governments.

As far as George Carlin he had no idea like rest of us. He just made money off jokes like all comedians.

I'm not totally sure what your point is, if it's that we live in a capitalist society where all mighty dollar rules I agree. As far as George Carlin making money off his jokes, that was the business he was in. I'm sure there were days you did not want to go to work but you did so to earn money.
The problem with living in a capitalist society is when money is the main goal greed creeps in and takes precedence over country, people, even self-preservation.
What Carlin's joke pointed out was that many who continue saying we have to save the planet are misguided, that the planet will survive long after we are gone. What these people should be saying instead is we should be taking measure to save ourselves.
If you were fortunate enough to watch 60 minutes last night, it focused in on how corporations relish on inflation and how mergers stifle the competition which gives them control over market prices.
There has to be a better way, and we better find it soon, if not for ourselves at least for our off springs.

[bogmonster]

A friend of mine was from Argentina and always bragged about their free healthcare. On one of her trips, she broke her arm and they fixed it for free. At that point she would hold up her arm. It was so crooked it looked like a hockey stick. I guess you get what you pay for!