[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by djlnc

Study up a bit on the ecological disaster known as Lithium Mining. There's a new operation starting up in Nevada that will use 5,000 TONS of sulfuric acid per day.

Let's be more specific… The mine your referring to is the Thacker pass mine. That sulfur will be turned molton on site to make sulfuric acid. The sulfur is a waste byproduct, and comes from… Wait for it....OIL REFINERIES!!!! Burning the sulfur to produce sulfuric acid is an exothermic reaction, allowing the plant to generate most of its own electricity.

So the mine recycles waste byproducts created by the oil industry and does not require any external energy.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

Nobody is forcing you to buy an EV so why do you and so many others hate them and feel compelled to actively protest against them? Right now an EV is perfect as a second car for errands and short work commutes where you don't need to worry about available commercial charge stations. They are not yet ready for long road trips to to range limitations and lack of charging infrastructure but that will change eventually. You guys seem to hate anything that is positive for the environment. Fortunately your generation will be dead soon and but your children will inherit the polluted dying planet you created.

One last point: All of our problems with terrorists, wars and the Middle East are caused by our interference in Middle Eastern affairs due to our need for oil. Eliminate the need for oil and thus eliminate our presence in the region and the problems related to the Middle East will be a thing of the past.

Haters gonna hate (The old foggies with one foot in the grave won't get that one either)
I got odds that says no one will counter your post!!!!

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by PjLyness1965

According to Biden administration all vehicles will be electric by 2035. So yes, we are in fact being forced to buy EV’s.

FAKE NEWS!! The goal of the administration is to have 50% of the vehicles battery powered by 2030. The operative word is goal. There is nothing that says it's a mandate. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...tric-vehicles/

[Pegasusprt]

Why doesn't EV evolve naturally instead of being jam down our throats. I am also ****ed at subsidizing up to 50% on every EV.

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by Pegasusprt

Why doesn't EV evolve naturally instead of being jam down our throats. I am also ****ed at subsidizing up to 50% on every EV.

Change your tv or radio station.
“ Some all-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles qualify for a $3,700 to $7,500 federal tax credit.“
If it were a 50% credit id buy an EV tomorrow!

[djlnc]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

The sulfur is a waste byproduct, and comes from… Wait for it....OIL REFINERIES!!!! Burning the sulfur to produce sulfuric acid is an exothermic reaction, allowing the plant to generate most of its own electricity.

And burning the sulfur creates...Wait for it...Sulfur Dioxide, which they claim they can clean up and not pollute.
There's also the issue with the huge amount of water they will use and lower the water table in this area.
And water consumption is a huge issue with the more traditional lithium mining in South America. They are using 500,000
gallons of water for a ton of lithium - in areas where water is scarce.

[biker1]

No, that is not true. There is an up to $7500 Federal Government subside, plus some states also have subsides, but that is not 50% of the cost of the car. It would, however, be correct to say that some automakers are losing money on their EVs. Essentially, the other operations in the company are subsidizing their EVs. Also, nobody is forcing you to buy an EV. However, if the Government is going to provide financial incentives for you to buy an EV perhaps you should take advantage of that. I assume at one point in your life you had a house with a mortgage. If that is in fact true, the Government was subsidizing your mortgage. Did you have issues with that?

Originally Posted by Pegasusprt

Why doesn't EV evolve naturally instead of being jam down our throats. I am also ****ed at subsidizing up to 50% on every EV.

[Nellmack]

Originally Posted by JRcorvette

NEWS FLASH
Global Warming does not exist and that’s a fact. Cars going to EV will not change anything at all as the modern cars do not even pollute very much.

Ironic opinion from someone with the name "JRcorvette"

[craarmy]

Motherearth magazine back in the 70's had plans for doing the same thing converting a Pinto wagon, 90mpg using like a 27hp Briggs and Straton engine for running the generator. the Ram in last weeks paper seemed simular, but question why use a V6 when you you could get by with a 4 cyclinder with better mileage.

[PhilG]

I had a dream I was 21 and had hair again.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by JRcorvette

NEWS FLASH
Global Warming does not exist and that’s a fact. Cars going to EV will not change anything at all as the modern cars do not even pollute very much.

Global Warming DOES exist and that IS a Fact. And that fact is supported by 90% of climate scientists worldwide. The last 8 years have been increasing record HEAT.This very year 2023 so far had the hottest summer EVER on the planet. And Nov. is on its way toward being the HOTTEST Nov. on record. Both poles are losing ice and scientists are measuring a rise in ocean levels that are increasing at an alarming rate. Plus the coral reefs are dying. Many animal species are threatened with extinction due to the increased HEAT being too rapid for them to adapt to.
........I think that a lot of people are not admitting to reality.
.........And the increasing purchases of E-vehicles is one step toward reversing GW.
.........Also be aware that automobiles have catalytic converters and other smog and pollution controlling equipment - gas Golf Carts, lawnmowers, leaf blowers, and gas motorcycles without pollution control devices are creating MAJOR POLLUTION.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by djlnc

Think of the range you could get if you hauled a small trailer with a couple hundred gallons of gas to keep those batteries charged!

Making jokes about Global Warming and E-vehicles vs gas vehicles - reminds me of the Historic fact that ,"Nero fiddled while ROME BURNED."

[jimjamuser]

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Originally Posted by mtdjed

I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated

We can only dream, BUT I'm sure the "Steve Jobs" out there will make it happen!

Electric vehicles are in their infancy - the early years of their development. Gas vehicles are at the end of their developmental lifetimes. In the next few years there will be improved batteries and charging stations everywhere. Electric range anxiety will be a thing of the past. And that MAY happen in time to prevent IR-REVERSABLE global warming RUNAWAY.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

Such a shame. Closing down the oil fields will not stop global warming. Maybe stopping the controlled burning would help? Maybe more money? Maybe solar panels covering our corn fields? Maybe windmills full of oil over our waters will help, until they leak?

1.1 million gallons leaked as of Monday and they still can't find the leak!
But yes...lets talk about hydraulic fluid coming from a windmill.

Oil spill could put endangered species at risk in Gulf of Mexico

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by revfiddle

I just remember to plug it in when I get home. I don't take any trips longer than 220 miles, so that's a non issue.

Most people are that way. Rent a gas vehicle when going on vacation and take away ALL those range anxiety fears.