[billethkid]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

It appears that way to me too. A few points to be made here. If and when white people are stopped disproportionately while walking or driving just because of the color of their skin, then some of these comments would make sense to me. If and when white people are given harsher sentences for the same crimes than other people, then some of these comments would make sense to me. If there was a long history of white people being enslaved, lynched, denied jobs, denied housing, denied loans, all based on the color of their skin, then some of these comments would make sense to me. The shooting in Orlando appears to be accidental while the police were responding to a call about an intoxicated man brandishing a gun. There was no intent to shoot the woman. (And let's not forget that once again a brave police officer was injured protecting us). To imply that the two shootings are similar is wrong, but to further imply that there is reverse discrimination against whites because the media isn't fanning the flames in Orlando is ignorant.

One big assumption being made, that each allegation WAS in fact based on the color of one's skin. It does make the story flow better for today's mindset.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

It appears that way to me too. A few points to be made here. If and when white people are stopped disproportionately while walking or driving just because of the color of their skin, then some of these comments would make sense to me. If and when white people are given harsher sentences for the same crimes than other people, then some of these comments would make sense to me. If there was a long history of white people being enslaved, lynched, denied jobs, denied housing, denied loans, all based on the color of their skin, then some of these comments would make sense to me. The shooting in Orlando appears to be accidental while the police were responding to a call about an intoxicated man brandishing a gun. There was no intent to shoot the woman. (And let's not forget that once again a brave police officer was injured protecting us). To imply that the two shootings are similar is wrong, but to further imply that there is reverse discrimination against whites because the media isn't fanning the flames in Orlando is ignorant.

In this day and age, all races should be treated equally. But no race should be given advantage just because of their color, such as affirmative action, That isn't fair. If a person does something wrong than they should be punished. I don't know the statistics of white versus black crime and I don't care. Just that each are punished for breaking the law.

The shooting in Orlando appears to be accidental but we don't KNOW what really transpired in Ferguson. When I see this guy steal things and push around the shop keeper I am not thinking positive no matter WHAT his color is. What IF he did climb in the police car and try to beat up the police officer? We don't know what happened yet completely. I am prejudiced because I was raised by a police officer and I have always respected the law and officers of the law.

If this police officer deliberately killed this young man, what was his motive?

If he struggled with the victim and the victim was trying to hurt him, his adrenaline would have been high.

I think we need to keep an open mind and try to be color blind. It is just as bad to blame one race as it is to blame the other. None of us had any choice in the color of our skin. But we have choices daily in how we act. Being enslaved was a long time ago, just as the second world war was a long time ago. This is now. None of us had any say in people being enslaved or Germans killing Jews. No one I know would have agreed with either thing. Everyone I know find both things abhorrent.

I find it awful that people use this as a screen to loot and steal. That is very wrong to me.

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

In this day and age, all races should be treated equally. But no race should be given advantage just because of their color, such as affirmative action, That isn't fair. If a person does something wrong than they should be punished. I don't know the statistics of white versus black crime and I don't care. Just that each are punished for breaking the law.

The shooting in Orlando appears to be accidental but we don't KNOW what really transpired in Ferguson. When I see this guy steal things and push around the shop keeper I am not thinking positive no matter WHAT his color is. What IF he did climb in the police car and try to beat up the police officer? We don't know what happened yet completely. I am prejudiced because I was raised by a police officer and I have always respected the law and officers of the law.

If this police officer deliberately killed this young man, what was his motive?

If he struggled with the victim and the victim was trying to hurt him, his adrenaline would have been high.

I think we need to keep an open mind and try to be color blind. It is just as bad to blame one race as it is to blame the other. None of us had any choice in the color of our skin. But we have choices daily in how we act. Being enslaved was a long time ago, just as the second world war was a long time ago. This is now. None of us had any say in people being enslaved or Germans killing Jews. No one I know would have agreed with either thing. Everyone I know find both things abhorrent.

I find it awful that people use this as a screen to loot and steal. That is very wrong to me.

Gracie, I have to disagree with you about affirmative action. A little history first: while slavery in this country ended in 1865, blacks still had to live under de facto segregation (Jim Crowe laws that began during the reconstruction period of 1865 to 1877) and continued until 1965, which was only 49 years ago. Affirmative action was needed to even a playing field that had been uneven for so very long. I think a much better argument would be whether or not it has gone on long enough to achieve its goals and that to keep practicing it amounts to reverse discrimination. I would agree with the premise that it's time for it to end, but I can't agree that it was never needed or necessary. I also stand by my previous point that comparing the shootings in Ferguson and Orlando is superficial and has racist overtones. Perhaps it's because what I think some people are implying is that the two shootings were the same thing, but look what those animals in Ferguson are doing while we civilized folks in Orlando are cool.

[jebartle]

Please no posts that I'm implying that anyone is a worm, Yipsters!
I will point out however that I was not comparing the shootings but only WISHING the outcome was more civilized....This is 2014, a good year to start the healing of race discrimination in this country.

[B767drvr]

Much more information was released today: 12 independent witnesses corroborate the police officer's story that he was attacked (his eye socket was fractured by punches to his face from Mr. Brown - again corroborated by all 12 witnesses.) Furthermore, the police officer shot out of fear for his life as Mr. Brown rushed him a second time.

This is a far different story than first portrayed: that of a "gentle soul" who wouldn't harm anyone and who was executed from behind with his hands raised in the air.

What is known is that minutes before his death, Mr. Brown robbed a convenience store.

[Advogado]

While I have an open mind on the matter, as more and more facts come out, it
appears that the shooting of Michael Brown, like that of Trayvon Martin, was justified and that we once again have an example of the media convicting an innocent person on the basis of incomplete and distorted information. The media was completely suckered by the rabble rousers in the Trayvon Martin case, and the same thing seems to be happening here. But let's wait till we have all the facts.

[Walter123]

I don't understand why all the looting. That sends the wrong message to the world. Can't say I'm surprised though.

[justjim]

Lets not forget the Attorneys inciting the "thugs"in Fergusion. The Attorneys looking for notoriety calling the police officer a murderer. That hasnt been proven yet as the investigation wasnt even completed and certainly no trial has beern held. I thought in America you were innocent until proven guilty. An Attorney should be held accountable for his actions and held to ethical standards IMHO.

[billethkid]

get the Holders, the Jacksons and the Sharptons and all the imports they bring with or incent to come, who are all the real racists....out of the event and leave it to the locals.

[mflasch]

Once again, as in so many of these cases, if the perpetrator had complied with the police officer's instructions, there would not have been an incident. Bottom line, that's the real issue. There is no respect for the law and these idiots think they can do whatever they want and get away with it.
Then you add the race baiters like Sharpton, Jackson and Holder to the mix and the "community" feels justified to burn, loot and destroy their own places of business. How getting a few new pairs of Nike's shows a concern for the police officer's action is not something that I can comprehend.

[Tennisnut]

Hopefully when everything comes out, we will find out that Officer Wilson had respect for the law and that the shooting of 6 bullets were justified.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

Hopefully when everything comes out, we will find out that Officer Wilson had respect for the law and that the shooting of 6 bullets were justified.

Here is a link to CNN where it says Officer Wilson was "briefly taken to the hospital for facial injuries". You have to read because it is waaaaay down.

Michael Brown investigations continue -- as do tensions - CNN.com


Michael Brown was very TALL, 6'4" and apparently very young and strong. It is very hard to know what to think about all this but I am hopeful too that the truth will come out and peace will be restored. I also believe in Santa. Read below.

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Here is a link to CNN where it says Officer Wilson was "briefly taken to the hospital for facial injuries". You have to read because it is waaaaay down.

Michael Brown investigations continue -- as do tensions - CNN.com


Michael Brown was very TALL, 6'4" and apparently very young and strong. It is very hard to know what to think about all this but I am hopeful too that the truth will come out and peace will be restored. I also believe in Santa. Read below.

Fortunately two to the head will stop anyone, even a 6'4" young black man!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Tennisnut

Fortunately two to the head will stop anyone, even a 6'4" young black man!

Was he black?

[Tennisnut]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Was he black?

Yes