[EPutnam1863]

I had to stop at a drug store for a bottle of water in a questionable neighborhood in Detroit, and the manager told me to keep the bottle while ushering me quickly of the store because the women in the line at the cash register looked at me as if though they wanted to attack me. We were wanting to visit a cemetery in that neighborhood but decided to scram out of there.

Most of these houses had bars on their windows. Ditto with Miami.

[EPutnam1863]

I was driving my father to John Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore when I missed a turn and ended up in a not very nice-looking neighborhood. The residents scowled at me, and my father told me to hurry up and get out of there as fast as I could.

[birdawg]

And what do all of these neighborhoods have in common?

[2BNTV]

Comparing one isolated incident of crime is painting a picture, in broad strokes. One has to look at the big picture.

Like the analogy of someone not wearing their seat belt in case a car catches fire and can't get out of their seat belt in time, (due to seat belt malfunction), as opposed to car accidents where someone is killed because they were thrown from the car. The exception is not the norm.

I came from a city that was at one time called, "the murder capital of the USA", yet, I'm still here.

Anytown USA was safer, 50 to 75 years ago. IMHO

BTW - I've never felt safer, being in TV.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Nevada has a lot of people coming through for short periods of time. I did encounter a lot of crime while growing up in Reno, Nevada. And was a victim/survivor of some of it. Shot in left pinky by kid "friend" with BB gun; attempted car-jacking; teacher's daughter murdered on my birthday of 2-24 in case probably solved in 2014 via DNA test ; close co-Philosophy major at the University of Nevada, Reno knifed in heart area six or so times by jealous husband; friend's dog shot through with arrow, etc.

Just on a note -- the boy was aiming a quite well pumped up BB gun at my eye when I persuaded him to aim between my fingers instead rather than shooting me in the face and/or taking out an eye. He had lifted the BB gun and aimed it me after I watched him pump it up. He missed and was soon in some kind of juvenile treatment program for those kids with sociopathological problems when his parents found out what had happened.

And the teacher's daughter was murdered while I was a student of this English teacher. Many of my fellow classmates were questioned by the police. At least, those without the alibi of a birthday party like me. None of these kids were at my birthday party. This slaying happened a few yards from the University of Nevada, Reno and this girl killed as a 19 year old nursing student there. Many students were scared to go out at night until this case was "solved" three years later in 1979.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by EPutnam1863

I was driving my father to John Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore when I missed a turn and ended up in a not very nice-looking neighborhood. The residents scowled at me, and my father told me to hurry up and get out of there as fast as I could.

Johns Hopkins Hospital is in east Baltimore, not a good area, neither is west Baltimore. However, go just a dozen blocks south and you would of be just east of the Inner Harbor in an area known as Fells Point. It's a cobblestone street area that has been in transition since the 80's and is now the most desirable area for the young hip crowd. Here's waterfront apartments in Fells Point, the Union Wharf where a studio rents for $1800 a month.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by John_W

Johns Hopkins Hospital is in east Baltimore, not a good area, neither is west Baltimore. However, go just a dozen blocks south and you would of be just east of the Inner Harbor in an area known as Fells Point. It's a cobblestone street area that has been in transition since the 80's and is now the most desirable area for the young hip crowd. Here's waterfront apartments in Fells Point, the Union Wharf where a studio rents for $1800 a month.

I love Fells Point!

[tomwed]

My eldest went to Hopkins. I would visit. We went on an organized bike ride that connected every park in the city. I biked some parts of the city faster then others. Some apartment buildings have a blue light on the roof. The police put it up there to tell people it's smart to stay away from that building. Overall I liked Baltimore. There were many kinds of celebrations on the weekends.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by tomwed

My eldest went to Hopkins. I would visit. We went on an organized bike ride that connected every park in the city. I biked some parts of the city faster then others. Some apartment buildings have a blue light on the roof. The police put it up there to tell people it's smart to stay away from that building. Overall I liked Baltimore. There were many kinds of celebrations on the weekends.

Never been to Baltimore but will try to visit some time in the future.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Never been to Baltimore but will try to visit some time in the future.

I think you will enjoy Baltimore. Go when there is a festival. Check out the HON festival. It's all about being a waitress when waitresses called everybody hon, wore beehives and those pointy glasses.

[jblum315]

Originally Posted by birdawg

And what do all of these neighborhoods have in common?

poverty

[KEVIN & JOSIE]

Worked my 30 year career in the Baltimore City and surrounding counties. I can agree with the report findings. There are no longer city county boundaries, as the once safe areas now share in the violent crime that once only plagued the city.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by tomwed

My eldest went to Hopkins. I would visit. We went on an organized bike ride that connected every park in the city. I biked some parts of the city faster then others. Some apartment buildings have a blue light on the roof. The police put it up there to tell people it's smart to stay away from that building. Overall I liked Baltimore. There were many kinds of celebrations on the weekends.

One thing to remember, Johns Hopkins Hospital and the JH University are not one in the same, they're about five miles difference, which in the city is many blocks. The University is in a much better area right off I-83 for better accessibility. The area around the university is mostly rowhomes and apartments that cater to college students. Whereas around the hospital most of the surrounding area is known as a war zone, which I wish they would just tear down.

[PennBF]

Worked for 20 plus years in Manhattan,NYC and only once saw a guy shot as he was swinging a big knife. When visitors came to the city we gave them 3 suggestions:
1. If you see something going down ignore it and keep going.
2. If you look down a side street and it does not look safe there is a good chance it is not and avoid it.
3. Avoid looking people in the eye as some nuts think that is threatening.
I was there when Giuliani was Mayor and it was a pretty safe city then. Today is it back to "Be Careful" days.

[graciegirl]

Visited Manhattan again a couple weeks ago to see our granddaughter who lives in a tiny apartment on the lower east side and pays over two grand a month for it. She lives alone and frankly I worry.

I don't like Manhattan. I can't help myself. First of all MANY buildings are unsafe and are sheltered by laws that protect historic sites. There are no elevators in many, and the fire escapes are often not trustworthy. The ADA would have a field day, should have a field day but many front doors are locked and I wonder if fire inspectors are doing their jobs or the statutes are badly in need of updating.

I would hate to live there because it is almost impossible to use your own vehicle and I am not patient. There are NO BIG grocery stores and the prices for everything is very, very high....to me outrageous. I have to believe that blocks and blocks should be razed in order to safely house humans.

I will now hide. My granddaughter loves it. I have never liked it, and used to have to go there once a month on business.


I realize this is NOT a popular opinion. I will now hear about the Museums and the culture. AND THE POWER.

Oh well, it's a slow day and we are retired.