[jebartle]

New York highest teacher salary average $90,000+....

Earlier thread, I mentioned that our values are "out of whack", how can our state, not be ashamed, paying a profession that is so important to our future such a pathetic amount to our teachers.

Please, for those asking me to leave if I don't like it, I suggest we fix this problem by cutting our legislators salaries until it's fixed.

[Babubhat]

Terrible students, administrators and parents. You have to be a social worker and prison guard. No freedom to actually teach. Everything is teachers fault. relentless abuse with no repercussions. No amount of money is worth it. So glad to be out of the dysfunctional system.

Everyone should be a substitute teacher for a day. You will end the day with a massive headache.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Terrible students, administrators and parents. You have to be a social worker and prison guard. No freedom to actually teach. Everything is teachers fault. relentless abuse with no repercussions. No amount of money is worth it. So glad to be out of the dysfunctional system.

Everyone should be a substitute teacher for a day. You will end the day with a massive headache.

What a shame babubhat, I'm sure you were another great teacher that has left the profession, and add mass shootings at schools, no wonder our children are drawing the short straw.

[Djean1981]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Terrible students, administrators and parents. You have to be a social worker and prison guard. No freedom to actually teach. Everything is teachers fault. relentless abuse with no repercussions. No amount of money is worth it. So glad to be out of the dysfunctional system.

Everyone should be a substitute teacher for a day. You will end the day with a massive headache.

I subbed for about a year and a half. You are correct. There are so many neglected kids that arrive at school not knowing how to use utensils, can't stay awake because they were up all night, wearing dirty clothes, and with zero self-governing skills, etc. It's an extraordinary challenge and very sad.

[JMintzer]

I guess it depends on where you teach...

My youngest daughter is a teacher and has not experienced any of those things...

[manaboutown]

My daughter-in-law just took a leave of absence from teaching first and second grades in a small town in Northern Idaho. She has a master's degree from UCI and is fluent in a foreign language. The pay was pretty low as she was just starting out but her biggest problems were the kids and their parents. She was teaching in the the "low school" (her term, not mine) that drew in part from the low income part of town. Even the first graders would curse at her and behaved awfully in many other ways. She received no parental backup as they came from alky-druggie parents. It was a nightmare for her.

This country has changed and it started many years ago. In the mid 1970s I was visiting in my home town. One of my classmate friends had an older brother who had been a math teacher at our junior high. We visited him. He and the shop teacher had started a construction business. They had each retired the day they could. I asked why. They told me the kids had changed. Well now the kids and the parents have changed...and how!

I still have business interests in Albuquerque, NM so closely follow the news there. Truancy in many of the schools exceeds 40%. A little over 60% graduate. That, to me, is a disaster!

[Decadeofdave]

This didn't happen over night. Take out prayer, pledge of allegiance, cut back on discipline, lower the standards, lower accountability, have battles over useless matters that used to be common sense. When the parents don't care about the kid, the kid will be out of control, therefore future societal problem.

[PurvisT]

Originally Posted by jebartle

New York highest teacher salary average $90,000+....

Earlier thread, I mentioned that our values are "out of whack", how can our state, not be ashamed, paying a profession that is so important to our future such a pathetic amount to our teachers.

Please, for those asking me to leave if I don't like it, I suggest we fix this problem by cutting our legislators salaries until it's fixed.

Where did you get this information, 49k is not a surprising figure for Florida in my opinion, but 2nd in USA?

[manaboutown]

"How Much Teachers Make in Florida

Preschool teacher: $29,890
Kindergarten teacher: $59,040
Elementary school teacher: $61,510
Middle school teacher: $60,280
High school teacher: $64,120"

"How Much Teachers Make in New York

Preschool teacher: $43,880
Kindergarten teacher: $84,530
Elementary school teacher: $87,700
Middle school teacher: $94,690
High school teacher: $92,660"

From: How Much Teachers Make in Every State 2021 | GOBankingRates

[Rainger99]

How did you compute the $49,000 salary?

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by jebartle

New York highest teacher salary average $90,000+....

Earlier thread, I mentioned that our values are "out of whack", how can our state, not be ashamed, paying a profession that is so important to our future such a pathetic amount to our teachers.

Please, for those asking me to leave if I don't like it, I suggest we fix this problem by cutting our legislators salaries until it's fixed.

You can’t compare salaries unless you also compare the cost of living in New York and Florida.

A salary of $25,000 in Orlando, Florida should increase to $46,552 in New York, New York. That is 1.86 higher.

If you multiply $49,000 times 1.86 you get $91,140.

Adjusted for cost of living, it appears that Florida pays more than New York.

[Caymus]

So, the salaries are higher in the states that Villagers left?

[Vikingjunior]

No state tax in Florida either so comparing NYC to Florida is disingenuous.
Housing is much cheaper also in Florida. So Apple to Oranges. No pun.

[Normal]

The cost of living matters because the taxpayers and tax payments matter. If the average salary in a farming community is 38,000, then the teacher’s salary may fall into that paradigm. In addition, some areas have different seniority (steps) that make pay different. Areas pay differently by computing education levels (bachelors, masters, doctoral). You can’t just right a blank check generalization of New York City teachers get paid this, while rural Floridian teachers get paid that.

Teaching is an art. It requires: flexibility, nurturing, multitasking management skills and knowledge. With this in mind you have to add the layer of preparation of daily events and the thick skin of tolerance.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave

This didn't happen over night. Take out prayer, pledge of allegiance, cut back on discipline, lower the standards, lower accountability, have battles over useless matters that used to be common sense. When the parents don't care about the kid, the kid will be out of control, therefore future societal problem.