[bdescalzi]

Maybe the costs per student plus graduation percentages should be considered in your comparison.

[Ptmckiou]

Originally Posted by TheWarriors

Would also be refreshing to hear the NEA actually admit 2 parent families matter, drug addicts need to be dealt with in much different ways and parents that can’t raise one child should be spayed or neutered like we do to animals that don’t have the ability to make conscientious decisions..

While some of your ideas are good, don’t get carried away. The above statement reflects what communist countries do to their people. Please don’t go there taking freedom away from citizens and giving the government more control.

[TraceJustice]

It's pathetic considering how high property taxes are here! To me that means all the money is going to high paying administrator jobs and other wasted projects instead of in the trenches.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

You are right! According to this, the average State Trooper salary in Florida is $41,007.

Just a moment...

However, the average police salary in Florida is $60,720.

Here’s How Much Money Police Officers Earn In Every State

Please note that teachers get summers off and lots of vacation during the year. The average teacher works 185 days a year while the average full time non-teacher works 245 days a year.

Florida averages 180 instructional days per year. There are variances based on school district but they’re generally small. Teachers work an extra of five days beyond the instructional calendar. The extra days are generally teacher workdays, time for continuing education, etc. So, how does that compare? The average fulltime employed person works 245 days, or 60 more than the average teacher, annually. It doesn’t quite work out to nine months, or 25% less work than the average non-teacher, but it’s close at 23% less time spent working. This does amount to an extra twelve weeks of work for the average Floridian compared to the average teacher further illustrating the disconnect.

Q&A of the Day – How many days per year do Florida’s teachers work? | 1290 WJNO.

Don't forget, a lot of the work teachers do is on their time away from school. Lesson plan prep, grading of papers/exams, etc...

So that 185 days is misleading...

[TheWarriors]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Don't forget, a lot of the work teachers do is on their time away from school. Lesson plan prep, grading of papers/exams, etc...

So that 185 days is misleading...

Yes, but how much do lesson plans change from year to year? Unless you are rewriting history and racist math.

[Pachine58]

But in Fla you don’t have state taxes taken out. Cost of living is so much lower then NY. Plus teachers only work 9 months out of a year. Then teachers retirement is so much better then Social security.

If teachers were allowed to just teach and take all these forced political agendas out our children would be better off. When we went to school our teachers made their own plans and not feed daily government plans to teach ideology. Our education system is horrible. We need to get rid of Dept of education and take the focus back to local school system. Get back to Basics.

[joelfmi]

That salary is for teacher in the system at least over 15 years in Suffolk County NY. Not NYC it's about the same as Florida.
What you wrote is completely correct.

[toeser]

Originally Posted by jebartle

New York highest teacher salary average $90,000+....

Earlier thread, I mentioned that our values are "out of whack", how can our state, not be ashamed, paying a profession that is so important to our future such a pathetic amount to our teachers.

Please, for those asking me to leave if I don't like it, I suggest we fix this problem by cutting our legislators salaries until it's fixed.

There may well be a real gap, but to just compare gross dollars is highly misleading. New York is one of the highest taxing states in the U.S., Florida one of the lowest. The cost of living in Florida is lower than most of New York. It's not just the dollars you get, it's what you get with those dollars.

[Heytubes]

Love Charter schools as well as home schooling.

[Tom M]

Good points made that teachers don't work 12 months out of the year. Yes newer teachers may have some extra time after hours preparing, but after a few years they become efficient with less after hours needed. Why not compare dollars per hour to other occupations rather than annual salaries?

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by Decadeofdave

This didn't happen over night. Take out prayer, pledge of allegiance, cut back on discipline, lower the standards, lower accountability, have battles over useless matters that used to be common sense. When the parents don't care about the kid, the kid will be out of control, therefore future societal problem.

I could not agree with your statement more!!

[Rainger99]

These are the average teacher salaries in Pennsylvania - from 2017-18.

What is the average teacher salary in every Pa. public school district? - WHYY

[RayAmb]

Don’t get me started on the education system in this Country ! Terrible production by teachers. Poor to no accountability. Tremendous hours and benefits. Now you don’t need any certificates to teach, in many places. It has become a social program with food, child care, sports, useless programs and at great expense to us all! Look at your yearly tax bill and the schools eat up 40% of all. Not to count Federal monies, State monies and a series of other funding sources. Teacher unions will tell you a huge false narrative. Our education system is a failure……… oh YES, WHY DO OUR STUDENTS RATE SO LOW WORLDWIDE?

[Sherry8bal]

Originally Posted by jebartle

New York highest teacher salary average $90,000+....

Earlier thread, I mentioned that our values are "out of whack", how can our state, not be ashamed, paying a profession that is so important to our future such a pathetic amount to our teachers.

Please, for those asking me to leave if I don't like it, I suggest we fix this problem by cutting our legislators salaries until it's fixed.

You can't even begin to compare FL to NY. The cost of living in NY is through the roof so $90,000 doesn't go far enough as to what $49,000 would in FL. If you really compare both, the FL salary would be better than New York's, PLUS you are only stating the beginning salary for teachers new coming into the system. Once they have a few years in, they are making good money for only working 9 months. That gives them either the summer off for a nice vacation or they can work other jobs if they need to just like the rest of Americans.

[LianneMigiano]

Housing is NOT MUCH cheaper in The Villages, FL! If you compare homes in NY (which generally have an attic, a basement and a good size yard) to a house you get here with the same square footage they are pretty much equivalent.