[Topspinmo]

If I legal resident and go visiting or vacation for 5 months and 29 days why would I have to do anything in visiting state? Not like I’m going to different country? Most IMO that use has two residents in two different states picks one with less taxes.

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183 days
Your physical presence in a state plays an important role in determining your residency status. Usually, spending over half a year, or more than 183 days, in a particular state will render you a statutory resident and could make you liable for taxes in that state.Jan

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

If I legal resident and go visiting or vacation for 5 months and 29 days why would I have to do anything in visiting state? Not like I’m going to different country? Most IMO that use has two residents in two different states picks one with less taxes.

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183 days
Your physical presence in a state plays an important role in determining your residency status. Usually, spending over half a year, or more than 183 days, in a particular state will render you a statutory resident and could make you liable for taxes in that state.Jan

While 183 days makes for a cleaner decision who says one can't have three homes in three states and divide their time equally. Poof there goes the 183 day rule.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by rustyp

While 183 days makes for a cleaner decision who says one can't have three homes in three states and divide their time equally. Poof there goes the 183 day rule.

And if FL law says you must live in the state 183 days to be considered a resident (I haven't looked that up) then they could deny your residency and a driver's license. Those states with income taxes would likely have different rules and would welcome you and your money.

[ElDiabloJoe]

I know of no reason why a family cannot "split" their residency. I have a neighbor that does this. One of them is still a resident of one state, and the other is a resident of FL. It is not hard for them to keep a journal to indicate one or the other has the requisite days per year in the "home" state. One simply spends a week or so longer in Florida before joining the other spouse in the other state during the summer.

This allows one to register and insure the cars in the less expensive state, while being able to homestead one of the residences in the state in which that is most advantageous. It is especially simple if neither state has a state income tax.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by rustyp

While 183 days makes for a cleaner decision who says one can't have three homes in three states and divide their time equally. Poof there goes the 183 day rule.

Originally Posted by Bill14564

And if FL law says you must live in the state 183 days to be considered a resident (I haven't looked that up) then they could deny your residency and a driver's license. Those states with income taxes would likely have different rules and would welcome you and your money.
Why do people insist on making claims without looking them up first, do they really think no one will check? Proof by emphatic assertion rarely works.
Confirmation bias is real; I can find any number of articles that say so.

A query is not the same as a claim be it in small or large print including above or below the line!

[retiredguy123]

When you move out of the country, the state you left from will claim you as a resident forever, and they will tax all of your income, even if you sell all of your property and break all ties with that state. In order to cancel a state residency, you must establish residency in another state. I believe that is the law in every state.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by rustyp

A query is not the same as a claim be it in small or large print including above or below the line!

Okay, I was going to let this go but....

I feel as though I'm supposed to be insulted but I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

[PVK-Newell]

... and you must choose in which state to claim a Homestead exemption that reduce your taxable property value and affords other protections. 🏡

[sowilts]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

It doesn’t look like that is possible.

Both WI and FL require you to get your license within 30 days of establishing residency. FL requires two forms for proof of residency. I don’t see how you could get a FL license with a WI address or maintain a FL license while officially a resident of WI.

FL may automatically register you to vote in FL when you get a FL license.

I never filed anything to declare my domicile in FL. I never heard of such a thing until I read it on these boards. I could prove my residence by my DL, address on my bills, and if need be, by credit card receipts for groceries and gasoline. As it turned out, MD didn’t try to hold onto me anyway.

My wife has a Florida License and Votes in Florida. She has s home at Maryland but doesn’t declare Homestead. If you have questions go to the proper source and ask your County Tax assessor. They will explain the 183 day rule also. Too many explanations on this forum. Great place to live.

[Romad]

There is a belief that when you surrender your driver’s license to obtain a Florida one that your previous one is cancelled. I found out that not to be true when I started receiving renewal notices for my previous one telling me they were going to cancel it if I didn’t pay it. Then there is the issue of voter registration. Our county elections office has the form needed to cancel your voters registration where one has previously voted.

As for the difference between residency and legal residence, they are different things. Just about any veteran should be able to explain what a legal residence means. I was always getting asked why I had NY plates on my car in Virginia and I would point out I am a Floridian which would really confuse them, especially when my insurance had my current address.

[Switter]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Your question is asking questions upside down. In order to get a Florida drivers license you have to prove residency. It's a condition to getting the license. If you aren't moving to Florida with the intention to make it your permanent residence, you'll need to keep your Wisconsin license. You can't have a license in two states at the same time. If you have property in both states, you need to decide which one you'll consider your permanent residence. Whichever one that is, is where you'll get "residency benefits," where you'll register to vote, and where you'll get your driver's license.

Yep. I remember after I applied for my Florida license I walked out to my car and realized they didn't give me my Minnesota drivers license back. I went back in to ask for it and she said you have to surrender it. Guess I didn't even think about that. Not that it's a big deal because I'll never be going back to Minnesota to live.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by sowilts

My wife has a Florida License and Votes in Florida. She has s home at Maryland but doesn’t declare Homestead. If you have questions go to the proper source and ask your County Tax assessor. They will explain the 183 day rule also. Too many explanations on this forum. Great place to live.

My wife had a FL DL and was registered to vote in FL for about six months before we moved out of MD. Nothing I wrote claimed anything different.

What I wrote was that it did not appear to be possible to obtain a FL DL while simultaneously claiming primary residency in WI. You have to choose, is your primary residence in FL or is it in WI (or any other state)? Since voter registration follows your primary residency, many states automatically register you to vote in their state when you first obtain a DL since obtaining a DL is a statement that you now reside in that state.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Romad

There is a belief that when you surrender your driver’s license to obtain a Florida one that your previous one is cancelled. I found out that not to be true when I started receiving renewal notices for my previous one telling me they were going to cancel it if I didn’t pay it. Then there is the issue of voter registration. Our county elections office has the form needed to cancel your voters registration where one has previously voted.

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That may depend on the state or it may have changed in the last 10 years but it is not always the case.

I neither canceled my MD license nor my MD voter registration, both were done automatically when I obtained my FL license five years ago.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

That may depend on the state or it may have changed in the last 10 years but it is not always the case.

I neither canceled my MD license nor my MD voter registration, both were done automatically when I obtained my FL license five years ago.

In the past, truck drivers would get several drivers licenses to minimize the chance of losing their right to drive due to traffic violations. I think this practice has been deemed illegal and the general rule is that you can only have one drivers license in your state of residence. I don't know if this is a Federal or state law.

[Jimmantel]

Originally Posted by JIMQ3100

I have read a few posts on FL residency but my questions is a little different.
I am WI resident. What happens if I get a FL driving license does it mean I get the FL residency automatically? I am thinking not.
what if I don't file for FL Domicile and voting rights in FL. Am I still considered WI resident by default for tax purposes?
Did anyone got FL driving license and not file for FL Domicile?
Input is appreciated.

Thanks

You can establish domicile in FL even while living in another state, but I would suggest contacting an attorney. We established domicile here a few years ago when we bought an RV and sold everything in NC. Domicile was easy for us since I was retired and we owned nothing anywhere else. Yours would be a little more complicated especially if you are still working because Wisconsin will want your tax $ and you can NOT use domicile as way to avoid taxes.
But you can still do it. I would suggest going to some RV websites (escapees is a good one) that explain domicile in detail. Remember, Dick Cheney while living in Texas and running Haliburton established Domicile in Wyoming so that he could run for VP.
When you establish domicile you are essentially saying "this is where I plan to live in the future."
I remember reading about a case where an NBA ref living in Minn. established domicile in FL. He owned property in FL and had met many many of the "requirements" but was still living in Minn. and working around the country. The judge's decision came down to one thing, he had resigned his membership at a racquet club in Minn and joined one in FL. and since racquet ball cannot be played remotely, he won the case.

As for us having a FL address while RVing, there are mail services that will give you a mailing address and also a street address for voter registration etc. Hope that gives you some insight. It can be done but you'll have to carefully step through some hoops.