[Taltarzac725]

Georgia Woman Set to Die Despite Anti-Death-Penalty Pleas - WSJ

What do you think of the death penalty? I think a huge amount of who decides to carry this out should be the victims of the specific case after all the appeals and facts have been exhausted with respect to errors of some kind.

Recall that my 224 613 Project involves a woman was unjustly held responsible for the 2-24-1976 murder of Michelle Mitchell in Reno, Nevada. This is Cathy Woods who made a false confession to the crime and continued it as far as I know for decades mainly because she is a paranoid schizophrenic. They probably have the right person now in Rodney Halbower but the facts are not all in on that either and may never be. Charges Dismissed Against Cathy Woods for 1976 Murder

My 224 613 Project is to empower survivors/victims of crimes through access in libraries and elsewhere to the most practical information for their recovery, sense of justice, mental health, etc. These needs though determined mostly by these survivors/victims and not by academic librarians, law librarians, law professors, politicians nor bureaucrats.

[keithwand]

Buh by!

[Cathy H]

I know some capital crimes are horrific but I always felt punishment by death ( after years of delay) is not right and the Pope has stated his desire to stop it. so lets stop doing this.

[Pointer]

On a practical side it costs way more to execute someone then to house them in a jail for life.

On a moral side I don't think we have a foolproof system nor the right to take someones life. Doesn't that make us killers too.

I'm hoping that science will come up with something soon to help the mentally ill people and not just lock them in jails.

I believe studies have shown that the death penalty it is not a deterrent to committing the crime in the first place. Many would rather die then spend the rest of their lives in jail. So whats the point

I do think that the victims should be compensated in some way by the perpetrator.

I hope that we can become a kinder more humane and less selfish nation.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Cathy H

I know some capital crimes are horrific but I always felt punishment by death ( after years of delay) is not right and the Pope has stated his desire to stop it. so lets stop doing this.

I would guess that many Popes have taken this stand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathol...tal_punishment


The victims' rights movement kind of started in churches, mosques, temples, and the like as these were the support system of people in various types of violent situations affected like abused wives and kids, violence against the homeless, etc. The History of Crime Victims

The delay is a huge problem but there is the question of making sure the right person is being held accountable. More educated jurors as well as others involved in the judicial system might help this process as well as cut the delay times. Facebook should help with this education process.

[justjim]

From what little I read regarding the woman about to be executed in Georgia, her boyfriend did the actual murder and he got life by a plea deal. She gets executed. Somehow this doesn't seem fair. But then---never read the details of the trial.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by justjim

From what little I read regarding the woman about to be executed in Georgia, her boyfriend did the actual murder and he got life by a plea deal. She gets executed. Somehow this doesn't seem fair. But then---never read the details of the trial.

I do wish that the decision makers delved deeply into the facts of each case rather than taking theoretical stances on some point or another.

I have a friend who protests at death penalty watches in Starke, Florida. Death Penalty News: Florida inmate calls death row 'hotel hell' She also has two Death Row prison pen pals but does not want to know what put them on Death Row in the first place. She just defends these men on the basis of her religious and political beliefs that the death penalty is wrong. It seems right in cases like Charles Manson and his group. One of my friend's pen pals killed his neighbors while he was on a crack high. She gave me their names but told me not to tell her what they did. Death Row Roster

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by keithwand

Buh by!

Bye bye.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Pointer

On a practical side it costs way more to execute someone then to house them in a jail for life.



On a moral side I don't think we have a foolproof system nor the right to take someones life. Doesn't that make us killers too.



I'm hoping that science will come up with something soon to help the mentally ill people and not just lock them in jails.



I believe studies have shown that the death penalty it is not a deterrent to committing the crime in the first place. Many would rather die then spend the rest of their lives in jail. So whats the point



I do think that the victims should be compensated in some way by the perpetrator.



I hope that we can become a kinder more humane and less selfish nation.

Without taking sides one way or another, I would appreciate a source for your statement that it costs more to execute someone than maintain them in prison for the remainder of their life.

I have known a few friends high up in the prison business who would disagree with your comment.

[mfp509]

My understanding is that her boyfriend took a plea deal so he got life. She refused the plea deal, was found guilty and got the death sentence.

[JoMar]

And in all the posts so far the only mention of the victim or the victim's family is that they should be compensated by the person that did the crime.....and where is that money supposed to come from? Whenever there is a conviction and sentence we seem to take the side of the accuser, want to throw out what was lawfully adjudicated and forget about the victims. Our system is flawed, no question, but, as in this case, the family of the victims must be heard and the punishment should give the victims some kind of closure.

[Jima64]

Originally Posted by Cathy H

I know some capital crimes are horrific but I always felt punishment by death ( after years of delay) is not right and the Pope has stated his desire to stop it. so lets stop doing this.

I find it difficult to believe anything the Pope, representing the catholic church says. I remember reading about the church helping nazis war criminals escape capture after the war.

I say bye lady now meet your maker.

[manaboutown]

Good bye to bad trash!

[Spikearoni]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Without taking sides one way or another, I would appreciate a source for your statement that it costs more to execute someone than maintain them in prison for the remainder of their life.

I have known a few friends high up in the prison business who would disagree with your comment.

According to the DPIC (Death Penalty Information Cener) which you can google, on average it costs $740000 to house a prisoner for life and $1.26million to execute him/her. I believe that is due to the costs involved with the appeals process.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Georgia Woman Set to Die Despite Anti-Death-Penalty Pleas - WSJ

What do you think of the death penalty? I think a huge amount of who decides to carry this out should be the victims of the specific case after all the appeals and facts have been exhausted with respect to errors of some kind.

Recall that my 224 613 Project involves a woman was unjustly held responsible for the 2-24-1976 murder of Michelle Mitchell in Reno, Nevada. This is Cathy Woods who made a false confession to the crime and continued it as far as I know for decades mainly because she is a paranoid schizophrenic. They probably have the right person now in Rodney Halbower but the facts are not all in on that either and may never be. Charges Dismissed Against Cathy Woods for 1976 Murder

My 224 613 Project is to empower survivors/victims of crimes through access in libraries and elsewhere to the most practical information for their recovery, sense of justice, mental health, etc. These needs though determined mostly by these survivors/victims and not by academic librarians, law librarians, law professors, politicians nor bureaucrats.

Tal: This is a very difficult topic to wade through. First most people with mental illness do not have a criminal overlay and in fact it is a crime in this country how poorly people with mental illnesses are treated. Better yet not treated because of stupid laws and people's ignorance. So many police departments have no understanding of how to address this issue. Also as to accurate diagnosis even the doctors get it wrong. So the pleas of insanity in a court room are always looked upon with suspicion. and of course it doesn't help when a criminal defense lawyers pleas a twinkie defense

As to the death penalty there is such a difference state by state and even counties within a state as to their applications of criminal sentencing, exacerbated by the plea bargaining .

People read every day ,where given the same crime, one person walks free in one state while in another state the person is locked up for 20 years.

I recognize that on the surface it may seem the same but is not and that prior criminal acts factor in but it can't explain it all away.

I do believe in capital punishment in some cases serial killing of a people, killing of cops, multiple killings by gang members, killings that are so horrific that they would shock the conscious.

We also find that many murders are committed with a person with a long illegal drug use, another problem this nation has mishandled for a very long time

It cost much to house a criminal and if killers are given life sentences chances are they will end up being paroled. This is especially true in liberal states or where budget are being strained

Essentially state politics plays a big role in the manner and way the judicial and correction systems operate and that I agree is a major flaw because it leaves rehabilitated people left to rot while in other states they are freed

Having said all that it is not a perfect system but scientific methods are improving its accuracy. As to innocence or guilt it kicks as much as it cuts to wit; Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson

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