[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=Jima64;1121839]I find it difficult to believe anything the Pope, representing the catholic church says. I remember reading about the church helping nazis war criminals escape capture after the war.

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Jima, reading this makes me sad. Some people are better than others in their jobs and in their hearts. I don't know Billy Graham, but wouldn't equate what anyone else in his position has done that was wrong with HIM. Somehow I know he is a good man. . Just as I sense goodness and truth in Francis.


He has to answer to God first and the laws of the Catholic Church may be different and somewhat out of step with today's world or the ways of worship may be foreign to you as another kind of Christian, but there are many good people and bad people who are Catholic, just as there are many good people and bad people who are not.

[Taltarzac725]

I love this Pope and many Catholics.

This Pope would have been one of the first targets of fascists like the Nazis or other modern day monsters.

The Death Penalty Project has an agenda so I would double check any of their statistics as to the cost of keeping someone alive vs. executing them. Personally, that should be one of the last considerations but I know that in many cases it is the first.

The Georgia woman was put to death early this morning. Only Woman on Georgia's Death Row Is Executed - ABC News

If I had the power looking at her record and if the victims' family in this matter agreed, I would have commuted this sentence to life because of the good works of this woman in prison. I do think these situations need to be looked at in a case-by-case basis.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by justjim

From what little I read regarding the woman about to be executed in Georgia, her boyfriend did the actual murder and he got life by a plea deal. She gets executed. Somehow this doesn't seem fair. But then---never read the details of the trial.

She was also offered a plea deal, but refused and took it to a jury.

[Taltarzac725]

Richard Glossip Makes Final Plea To Supreme Court To Halt His Execution

Now this case seems to warrant extra scrutiny.

[Jima64]

Done deal. Won't kill anyone else.

[AJ32162]

Originally Posted by Spikearoni

According to the DPIC (Death Penalty Information Cener) which you can google, on average it costs $740000 to house a prisoner for life and $1.26million to execute him/her. I believe that is due to the costs involved with the appeals process.

And, a bargin at twice the price.

[Jima64]

Originally Posted by leftyf

I approve of the death penalty a lot more than I approve of abortion. 100% of the aborted babies are innocent, so I don't understand how we can condemn the death penalty and endorse abortion, especially after the first trimester.

I do believe that most do not support the death penalty and at the same time support abortion. Just my opinion. After many years I switched to oppose abortion, but I do support the death penalty.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Spikearoni

According to the DPIC (Death Penalty Information Cener) which you can google, on average it costs $740000 to house a prisoner for life and $1.26million to execute him/her. I believe that is due to the costs involved with the appeals process.

Thanks for the follow up. To your knowledge is there a significant difference between the number of appeals for someone sentenced to life vs death? Just wondering from an educational perspective.

[JoMar]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1121893]

Originally Posted by Jima64

I find it difficult to believe anything the Pope, representing the catholic church says. I remember reading about the church helping nazis war criminals escape capture after the war.

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Jima, reading this makes me sad. Some people are better than others in their jobs and in their hearts. I don't know Billy Graham, but wouldn't equate what anyone else in his position has done that was wrong with HIM. Somehow I know he is a good man. . Just as I sense goodness and truth in Francis.


He has to answer to God first and the laws of the Catholic Church may be different and somewhat out of step with today's world or the ways of worship may be foreign to you as another kind of Christian, but there are many good people and bad people who are Catholic, just as there are many good people and bad people who are not.

Well said

[Taltarzac725]

Readings - The New Speed-Up In Habeas Corpus Appeals | The Execution | FRONTLINE | PBS

You may want to take a look at this link.

[Taltarzac725]

Richard Glossip's final appeal denied; see his long road to Oklahoma's death row - LA Times

Update on this.

[Walt.]

Originally Posted by Cathy H

I know some capital crimes are horrific but I always felt punishment by death ( after years of delay) is not right and the Pope has stated his desire to stop it. so lets stop doing this.

I agree with the Pope. Let's stop those years of delay!

[Sandtrap328]

The USA has great company in the field of executions:North Korea, Iran, SaudiArabia, and Somalia.

Civilized countries do not do that anymore. Of course, civilized countries do not have private ownership of handguns, either.

[manaboutown]

The civilized thing to do would have been to put her down ASAP. It took 18 years and far too much taxpayer money. She did not deserve to live after she had her husband stabbed to death by her boyfriend. She was a murderous miserable excuse for a human being.